
linux
17.12.2017
16:18:08
They are not releng ones if that is what you mean

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:18:21
Woah, I had no idea we see refreshes!

linux
17.12.2017
16:18:33
But they use the same ks files but have fedora-updates.repo enabled
Yeah even other point release or major cve security patch @Schyken

Google

linux
17.12.2017
16:19:17
Every*

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:20:05
That's awesome! I'm always pretty frustrated after installing an OS after a while has passed since release... Updates are pretty hard-hitting sometimes!

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:20:26
Fedora usually takes double its initial iso after some time XD

linux
17.12.2017
16:20:52
We even have torrents for them( whitelisted and geoip blocked from the us dept of commerce embargo list)

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:20:57
But even a current dot release will be quickly oudated

linux
17.12.2017
16:21:15
So far that is nearly 780mb so far for 27
Ga to now that is ^^^
We base that number of gnome

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:22:38

linux
17.12.2017
16:23:24
Including my laptop its seeding from 6 hosts all that we control atm

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:24:14
We base that number of gnome
Luckily i only reinstall once in every blue moon - and when i do it on servers i so do not give anything about the bandwidth used XD

linux
17.12.2017
16:24:54
Where are you on the globe?

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:25:02
Germany

Google

linux
17.12.2017
16:25:11
We have 4 of those in the us one in germany

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:25:13
Main deployment in Hetzner Servers

linux
17.12.2017
16:26:00
Replace tx with https://de.fspin.org/Testing/20171214/

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:26:00
Oh i'm not seeding - hetzner is very suspicious of any torrent traffic

linux
17.12.2017
16:26:19
Its hosted on web server there too
Those two hosts have http/torrent/rsync available
Rsync -rv --progress de.fspin.org::/var/www/html/Testing/20171214 should do just fine for anon rsync

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:28:28
I'll seed the KDE version. No bias at all :P

linux
17.12.2017
16:29:00
We ask that if possible a full set but anything helps :)

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:29:24

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:29:42
They hate to be the home of filesharers and are eager to pull servers for DCMA and similar.

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:30:02
Oh.
Okay. Now I get it.

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:30:50

linux
17.12.2017
16:30:55
These are all gpl3 like the ones you get off getfedora.org

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:31:54
Eh, someone should start to sell Linux Dvds for windows-esque prices to make those that think "its free it must be bad" rethink.

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:32:47
Such a great idea.

Matías
17.12.2017
16:32:56
Or make them to pay a license ?

Google

Matías
17.12.2017
16:33:03
weekly.

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:33:25
I've been told this many times in LATAM
"And come on, you can't seriously say it's good, it's for free!"

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:33:54
Hardened kernel is unstable?

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:34:18
Dunno. I don't use it. What is the difference?

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:34:53

linux
17.12.2017
16:35:06
Define stabke @N0Ze_R0

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:35:44

linux
17.12.2017
16:36:02
or more insecure if compiled by someone that rolls their own

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:37:15

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:37:56

linux
17.12.2017
16:38:07
but then the argument is still weakest link

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:38:21
If you want hardened you should go with Centos/RHEL - they manage to score every certification for even government security ever.

linux
17.12.2017
16:38:22
if the rest of the system is 'soft' the net gain is moot

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:38:49

linux
17.12.2017
16:40:08
centOS is RHEL with s/corporate support/solely community support/ 98 % the same otherwise

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:40:44

linux
17.12.2017
16:41:07
that is mostly the licensing issue tho ( that last part)

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:43:18
Sadly hetzner doesnt offer RHEL + licensing fee yearly - they only offer centos.
Or windows for 25-155€ a month

Matías
17.12.2017
16:43:55
Someone can tell me how to make transparent the kde panel and dock? On Fedora 26 just needed to put the opengl 2.0 mode in the compositor settings.

Google

Matías
17.12.2017
16:44:06
I have the mesa drivers.
Amd graphics.

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:44:21

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:44:32

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:44:54

Matías
17.12.2017
16:44:59
It is transparent but in previous Fedora had more transparency. Now it's just a little.

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:45:35

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:46:22
https://www.hetzner.com/add-on-product/show/windows-server-2016-standard-edition
https://www.hetzner.com/add-on-product/show/windows-server-2016-datacenter-edition
I mean i see no difference - but a microsoft® certified® Licensing Contractor® might be able to tell which version limits cpu cores to only 4 every sunday night unless you have addon product xyz which will then require at most 2 cpu sockets.... and so on.

Admin
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Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:46:43
I still dont understand how they can get away with artificially limiting or licensing to sockets, amount of ram and similar.

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:47:01
Not gonna lie, the current seeds for the respins are complete garbage. ?

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:47:06

Matías
17.12.2017
16:47:51

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:48:03
OK

Matías
17.12.2017
16:50:15
Can you see the difference?

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:50:23
What theme is this?

Matías
17.12.2017
16:50:57
I tried the defeaul theme. Same results.

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:51:21

Google

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:51:26

Matías
17.12.2017
16:51:37

N0ZeR0
17.12.2017
16:51:50
Ok
I see a little transparency

Matías
17.12.2017
16:52:17
The effect in xrender mode it just takes a little and then it goes normal. Like the first photo.

Tobias?
17.12.2017
16:52:18
*Screams at vbox*

Matías
17.12.2017
16:52:30

linux
17.12.2017
16:53:15

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:53:21
Can you see the difference?
Yeah, one is more transparent than the other. Keep in mind that often you have to log out and in for effects to take place.

linux
17.12.2017
16:53:28
they are all on 100Mb/s or better

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:53:40

Matías
17.12.2017
16:53:50

linux
17.12.2017
16:53:53
define 'not garbage'

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:54:01
Five active torrents, just over 100Mb/s TOTAL

חנכתה
17.12.2017
16:54:01
merch evening?))

Matías
17.12.2017
16:54:05

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
16:54:19

Kohane
17.12.2017
16:54:33