It said that dnf are in cache

My script starts with wiping that.

You can also comment that part out.

So if I just comment itnout rest gonna work fine?

Most likely

Okey thanks

the ones i badly need are: teamviewer telegram viber virtualbox sublimetext3 arctheme better font rendering adobe flash The reason people use fedy etc is because it takes hours to find missing software packages and then it takes hours to install them

Does Viber exist for PC? I didn't know. Fonts all over internet, plus there are many in repos. And in websites like Gnome Look and KDE Look. Choose any you like. Sublimetext, Telegram and Adobe Flash are available from their websites. If you don't want to install Flash, you can use Chrome instead. Arc theme is in www.gnome-look.org I don't know Teamviewer and Virtualbox because I don't use them.

Does Viber exist for PC? I didn't know. Fonts all over internet, plus there are many in repos. And in websites like Gnome Look and KDE Look. Choose any you like. Sublimetext, Telegram and Adobe Flash are available from their websites. If you don't want to install Flash, you can use Chrome instead. Arc theme is in www.gnome-look.org I don't know Teamviewer and Virtualbox because I don't use them.

Well, virtualbox is to be only used in emergencies when one can't use kvm with boxes or virt-manager (+ spice-space.org drivers installed) And teamviewer is a heap of shitty software as crappily coded as everyone would've expected really.

Most likely

Does rebooting removes files from cache too?

well codecs themself are a little hit n miss on fedora...

From the moment Fedora incorporated mp3 out of the box, I stopped needing extra stuff.

Well, virtualbox is to be only used in emergencies when one can't use kvm with boxes or virt-manager (+ spice-space.org drivers installed) And teamviewer is a heap of shitty software as crappily coded as everyone would've expected really.

Fine. But he didn't ask our opinion about his software. He just wanted to install it. Hence my answer.

Does rebooting removes files from cache too?

It doesnt

He's entitled to use any rubbish he pleases.

Fine. But he didn't ask our opinion about his software. He just wanted to install it. Hence my answer.

For teamviewer one is giving up wayland and "no 32 bit or wine on the system"

Which are both quite questionable imho

well, at the end of the day, let people use what they want, but don't support them if you think it's garbage. That's a pretty good policy I think. Maybe add some spicy comments like "If you would use XY this wouldn't be your problem" but that's it :D

People will learn and change over time or find a solution themselves.

People will learn and change over time or find a solution themselves.

Problem is they dont as long as it "just works"

But isn't that the ultimate goal for most end users?

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Exactly.

My main goals are: 1) It's not a headache to install, configure and use. 2) It works.

Problem is they dont as long as it "just works"

When it works, they don't have problems. And when they don't have problems, they don't bother me with requestions. So this way I don't care. Many people love insecure and broken systems. When they use fedy or some other garbage and the update breaks: Not my/our/your problem. Refer to what you once said and leave them alone. Then they'll may ask how to do it properly and then again you can help them. Inbefore it's a waste of ressources. Your's and his

For teamviewer one is giving up wayland and "no 32 bit or wine on the system"

I am not even using Wayland neither wine so big deal ?

I got only like 2 usecases for it

To fix home PC and small setups

I switched to kubuntu switched back to fedora immediately ?

I am not even using Wayland neither wine so big deal ?

Just for the records, I tried Wayland in KDE. Better than last time, but still terrible.

Wayland is not mature enough yet

I switched to kubuntu switched back to fedora immediately ?

LMAO That was me in the CS courses!

Wayland is not mature enough yet

Works nice in Gnome.

Cs? Counter strike?

But I don't use Gnome.

Works nice in Gnome.

Many things still missing

Computer Science

Like...?

Ow ow ow?

Like...?

There's an entire list

But the easiest one

Ow ow ow?

Since when there are gaming courses? I would attend...

Not being able to run files app via su on terminal

So no GUI apps cant be opened that way

Files.. you mean Nautilus?

Yes

I hate Gnome app naming.

It's idiotic.

Not being able to run files app via su on terminal

That's not a missing feature >.> that's a security feature at least when you talk about running them as root

Why they don't name their programmes properly?

That's not a missing feature >.> that's a security feature at least when you talk about running them as root

It is a security problem maybe to you

But I need some of them to run as sudo

That's not a missing feature >.> that's a security feature at least when you talk about running them as root

It's not a security feature. I ran Nautilus many times in KDE. Using SU/root

If it was a security thing, it wouldn't run regardless the desktop.

I didn't try with Gnome X.org though.

I didn't try with Gnome X.org though.

It does work with X

I couldn't use Gnome for that much time.

It does work with X

Oh, Okay. Now I know.

I am on xfce since like forever

But I need some of them to run as sudo

terminal or switch to xorg for legacy crap.

And nautilus can be opened to access things as root.

destination admin:/// in the connect to bar on "other"

GNOME is just not for me

But I need some of them to run as sudo

See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems#Graphical_applications_can.27t_be_run_as_root_from_terminal

I am on xfce since like forever

Yeah, I use it in Debian and it's very nice.

It feels like as if XFCE were Android and GNOME were iOS

IMO

From my point of view that's a compliment to Gnome. I love iOS.

From mine it's the opposite

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It feels like as if XFCE were Android and GNOME were iOS

As absolutely hating ios and its lack of configuration, user control and similar thats a really awful thing to take to gnome.

Do you have an iPhone @AnXh3L0 ? Or used any for a certain time?

I used an iPhone 6s

For a while

Oh.

gnome can be made beautiful and is rock fucking stable but in the end if you have your needs like root apps - just dont.

I have an iPhone 5s and I love it so far.

Do you have an iPhone @AnXh3L0 ? Or used any for a certain time?

I had the option to but its closed source and doesnt have lineage, thus they will never be on my buy list. :P

gnome can be made beautiful and is rock fucking stable but in the end if you have your needs like root apps - just dont.

I can make xfce more beautiful than GNOME though

I didn't buy it myself though

gnome can be made beautiful and is rock fucking stable but in the end if you have your needs like root apps - just dont.

Gnome can be made beautiful, I totally agree. Is rock stable... I don't agree that much.

I just got it from someone for a test ride

Gnome can be made beautiful, I totally agree. Is rock stable... I don't agree that much.

Well, has been for me for the last 3 years so... It still depends a little on the hardware, especially nvidia's dicking isnt too well-becoming for it

I had the option to but its closed source and doesnt have lineage, thus they will never be on my buy list. :P

I don't care Lineage, I don't even know what is. And for closed source... it's a phone. I seriously doubt any of them are really open source. And their security is really tight. Besides I never liked Android.

depends on the user

I am running Oreo gappsless atm and I love it

Well, has been for me for the last 3 years so... It still depends a little on the hardware, especially nvidia's dicking isnt too well-becoming for it

Yeah. I have Nvidia. Interestingly enough, the previous iteration worked better in my laptop than the present one.

depends on the user

Yes, of course, like everything in life.

I don't care Lineage, I don't even know what is. And for closed source... it's a phone. I seriously doubt any of them are really open source. And their security is really tight. Besides I never liked Android.

Open sourced even firmware phones: https://www.replicant.us/supported-devices.php

Fair enough.

iOS can be secure, not private

But still never as secure as a modified Android

Lineage OS is a thing that takes the Android ipen sauce kit that google publishes and makes a FOSS Release out if it - remaining blobs only are : modem gpu

It's a phone. You'll never get total privacy with it.

It's a phone. You'll never get total privacy with it.

Why not?

If i enable airplane mode my android is om radio silence.

I'm telling you

Running GApps-less

Is the best thing

You can do with your Android

Privacy wise

If ios users disable wifi/bluetooth both dont turn off anymore and still allow things like pencil to connect.