not recently

if i try to update, i get Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'postinstallerf', disabling. Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'postinstallerf-updates', disabling

sudo dnf clean all ?

sudo dnf clean all ?

going to remove .repo file, clean and then try again

not recently

Try dnf --refresh upgrade

postinstallerf is not updated for f27

i have fedora 27

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/113757/cannot-upgrade-to-27/

i was recommended to replace fedy with postinstallerf but guess not going to happen))

What things do you need from fedy/postinstallerf? There is always the possibility to install the stuff manually.

Never use Fedy!

Never use Fedy!

I have said that hundreds of times but still..

i was recommended to replace fedy with postinstallerf but guess not going to happen))

Not replace, using neither instead.

Fedy is part of the many "XX Things to do after Fedora install"-sites. I think that's the main reason why people never will stop using it.

90% of the things it offers are "install rpmfusion and do dnf search dnf install"

Fedy is part of the many "XX Things to do after Fedora install"-sites. I think that's the main reason why people never will stop using it.

Then we must stop websites from showing that as a viable action to follow after installation

Fedy is part of the many "XX Things to do after Fedora install"-sites. I think that's the main reason why people never will stop using it.

I'm happy I replaced that with a ansible repository for people around me D:

the ones i badly need are: teamviewer telegram viber virtualbox sublimetext3 arctheme better font rendering adobe flash The reason people use fedy etc is because it takes hours to find missing software packages and then it takes hours to install them

Hours??

Teamviewer, official website | telegram, official website

Arc theme is already in the repos

Flash is outdated and shouldn't be used

well, dead and no longer needed are different things, sadly :/

with fedy, it took me to click "Install" and then it installed it along with the shortcut links. On my own i have to struggle first with installing packages then sometimes path to the file is missing. This was the biggest issue with sublime text. had to go to terminal and type sublime so that it would run. Had no gui link to it.

I know it's supposed to make things faster

Teamviewer, official website | telegram, official website

Telegram - RPMFusion. Don't use version from offsite.

But it destroys the system

And creates problems in the long run

with fedy, it took me to click "Install" and then it installed it along with the shortcut links. On my own i have to struggle first with installing packages then sometimes path to the file is missing. This was the biggest issue with sublime text. had to go to terminal and type sublime so that it would run. Had no gui link to it.

have you considered using kate, atom or vscode over sublime text?

i use sublime text at job so need to use at home as well.

there are extensions for sublime text shortucts in other editors

so they can behave exactly as you would expect

the ones i badly need are: teamviewer telegram viber virtualbox sublimetext3 arctheme better font rendering adobe flash The reason people use fedy etc is because it takes hours to find missing software packages and then it takes hours to install them

In most cases it is better to use KVM instead of Virtualbox. arc-theme ist already in the main-repos. Telegram is in rpmfusion. AdobeFlash is outdated. For the rest, I don't know

In most cases it is better to use KVM instead of Virtualbox. arc-theme ist already in the main-repos. Telegram is in rpmfusion. AdobeFlash is outdated. For the rest, I don't know

^this

you can use virt manager over vbox

the ui is similar enough

also vbox provides RPMs

super easy to install if you need it

This is exactly the reason for using fedy. Half of these packages were working in linux mint, then i updated the system and i can't use mint anymore so switched to ubuntu but same problems, so switched to fedora and just because half of the things i am accoustemed to use, i can't use so i must spend time on finding alternatives. And this issue will not reappear after next update, who knows.

This is exactly the reason for using fedy. Half of these packages were working in linux mint, then i updated the system and i can't use mint anymore so switched to ubuntu but same problems, so switched to fedora and just because half of the things i am accoustemed to use, i can't use so i must spend time on finding alternatives. And this issue will not reappear after next update, who knows.

having these programs installed from repositories means they will update with the system and you are less likely to have issues

Half these programs i use at my job as well, now if i use something else at home, i face some issues while replicating something at job/home, i don't know is it because i am using different softwares or i am doing something differently....

In layman's terms... Using some third party installer like that just means that you'll be stuck with a relatively isolated application that is prone to breakage, and furthermore security vulnerabilities. If you're okay with your shit breaking and needing to reinstall stuff to fix it, and are completely fine with potentially compromising the security of your system, go for it.

This is exactly the reason for using fedy. Half of these packages were working in linux mint, then i updated the system and i can't use mint anymore so switched to ubuntu but same problems, so switched to fedora and just because half of the things i am accoustemed to use, i can't use so i must spend time on finding alternatives. And this issue will not reappear after next update, who knows.

i think you are looking to fedy as a solution for a problem it doesnt fix

all it gives you is convinience

none of the other problems you mentioned it solves

in fact using a repository will fix those problems for you

in fact using a repository will fix those problems for you

This

In layman's terms... Using some third party installer like that just means that you'll be stuck with a relatively isolated application that is prone to breakage, and furthermore security vulnerabilities. If you're okay with your shit breaking and needing to reinstall stuff to fix it, and are completely fine with potentially compromising the security of your system, go for it.

my system broke when i updated to latest version of mint/ubuntu. So no guarantees, if system update breaks it or third party breaks it. As far as security vulnerabilities are concerned, if a software exists, it is vulnerable especially with/without update. We just have to compromise between comfort/practicality/vulnerability.

Sorry, guys need to go somewhere, will continue discussing it next time. I will try to find alternatives, see what happens))) Have a good day)))

my system broke when i updated to latest version of mint/ubuntu. So no guarantees, if system update breaks it or third party breaks it. As far as security vulnerabilities are concerned, if a software exists, it is vulnerable especially with/without update. We just have to compromise between comfort/practicality/vulnerability.

1 - do not compare mint/ubuntu with fedora, you havent even bothered to mention how you installed said applications there or what caused system breakage 2 - sure if you want to compromise on security go ahead, what we are saying is you are more likely to have something broken by using fedy than using the repos 3 - all you get out of fedy is present comfort

the ones i badly need are: teamviewer telegram viber virtualbox sublimetext3 arctheme better font rendering adobe flash The reason people use fedy etc is because it takes hours to find missing software packages and then it takes hours to install them

replace virtualbox with libvirt and flash with not having it

virtualbox is a kernel module and thus may induce unwated behaviour and tons of problems - not to mention it permanently taints your kernel and thus makes your bugreports useless.

the ones i badly need are: teamviewer telegram viber virtualbox sublimetext3 arctheme better font rendering adobe flash The reason people use fedy etc is because it takes hours to find missing software packages and then it takes hours to install them

also teamviewer recently managed to have a backwards-session takeover found - and viber.. i'd run both in at most a virtual machine. and the rest is freely available.

how the boxes in fedora?? better then virtualbox??

how the boxes in fedora?? better then virtualbox??

Boxes for beginners, virt-manager if you need more configuration.

I would rather containerize and use KVM For everything that needs to be virtualised

how the boxes in fedora?? better then virtualbox??

boxes isnt powerful enough most of the time

ok boxes for me :D

virt-manager allows you to set everything from the drive connector (always use virtio) ect - but you need to know a little bit from the start

boxes isnt powerful enough most of the time

Because it doesnt use virtio for windows because it assumes noone is bright enough to click "search for driver" on install. XD

i just need to run some adobe apps on windows.. think boxes gonna work fine?

Yes it very likely would

Installing from Software Centre never worked for me, it always return an error. Moreover, I have codecs installed that Software Centre show as available to install. Using Dnfdragora or terminal is far better.

well codecs themself are a little hit n miss on fedora...

/me laughs compared to Ubuntu's spiral to nothingless.

+1

GNOME devs make changes without consulting their users

i really love gnome but i must agree they make some very weird choiches sometimes, for example now they say music is the reccommended music player, whilere clearly is not ready for the prime time

or the fact they are not choosing evolution as default mail app, while it's a complete app and almost follow the guidelines

ERROR: S client not available

well codecs themself are a little hit n miss on fedora...

Well, which is missing? :P

well the thing is i (and i repeat i) should carefully install codecs or i will have problems like the coding one

@arvindbeniwal For Sublime Text, they have an easier way to install it on Linux these days. Before, you had to install and set it up manually, but they have repositories now. Check their site for the correct installer. If you really need Flash, you can check out Negativo's repos. He packages a lot of useful proprietary software that follows Fedora packaging guidelines. http://negativo17.org

@arvindbeniwal I use Telegram directly from Telegram's website and haven't had any issues. Not sure about Viber of TeamViewer. VirtualBox is available in the RPMFusion repositories. You can add those repos and then install VirtualBox. Not sure what better font rendering means.

StandleSsstill (Jan Naj) is in search of cheap codewriters for ethereum smart contract bullshit, if you are written up by him beware he might search to exploit you for cheap or unpaid labour.

@arvindbeniwal I use Telegram directly from Telegram's website and haven't had any issues. Not sure about Viber of TeamViewer. VirtualBox is available in the RPMFusion repositories. You can add those repos and then install VirtualBox. Not sure what better font rendering means.

Telegram from official website built with outdated static versions of Ubuntu 14.04 libraries with dirty-hacked Qt 5.6 and even vulnerable openssl. RPMFusion version built against system dependencies.

There is even a flatpak telegram

There is even a flatpak telegram

which doesn't support ibus input

There is even a flatpak telegram

Flatpak version use bundled (but not static) Ubuntu libraries too.

Im using telegram desktop inside with firejail and tor, it works great

Flatpak version use bundled (but not static) Ubuntu libraries too.

Well i use it and seems equal to the rpm from rpmfusion

Well i use it and seems equal to the rpm from rpmfusion

It built using Debian patches, but bundled with Ubuntu libraries.

Why is that? (considering is packaged by a fedora dev?)

Why is that? (considering is packaged by a fedora dev?)

Because they prefer Ubuntu. You can check Flatpak build manifest here: https://github.com/flathub/org.telegram.desktop/blob/master/org.telegram.desktop.json

They downloading and building Ubuntu libraries from launchpad, then bundle Telegram Flatpak with them.

Chromium or canary??

Chromium or canary??

Wait what

Which 1 to use chromium or chrome canary?

Chromium on Linux is something entirely different on Linux - its a well-packaged, stable and recent version of chromium - which is also the base for gchrome, just without tracking, spying, widevine and flash.

And chromium is natively available in the repos so go for it

Chromium or canary??

Chromium ofc, from Fedora's repositories (with chromium-media-freeworld from RPMFusion).

If you have any problems with media playback do what xvitaly said before i finished typing. XD

Media feeeworld for media playback on chrome?

Media feeeworld for media playback on chrome?

All codecs (except free) were dropped from Chromium due to patents.

i was recommended to replace fedy with postinstallerf but guess not going to happen))

No, no. Both together is a terrible idea. I did in the past and messed up everything. They often use different versions for the same programmes. Either use PostinstallerF or Fedy but not both.

Oww

@Wolfshappen I instakked your newinstall script but it failed at 97%

Net probs

Do I have to download everything again

Installed*

Do I have to download everything again

copy the part at which it failed an rerun just that part (either update or installation)

My script starts with dnf clean all so it cleans all downloaded packages.