i have tried quantum and to me it seems as fast as vivaldi, but then i hate that firefox interface

Which one? I don't see it too different from previous versions...

vivaldi - resource heavy chrome / opera / vivaldi / edge - closed source firefox - ugly, slow firefox quantum - slower waterfox - insecure

adjust the performance settings for quantum to use 4+ processes maybe?

maybe

ill try with that

but i have only 2 cores at my disposal

and they arent particularly fast

Any news for hardware acceleration in firefox?

vivaldi - resource heavy chrome / opera / vivaldi / edge - closed source firefox - ugly, slow firefox quantum - slower waterfox - insecure

as for vivaldi, they've done lot of work in that area, i out of curiosity made some tests and it uses about 100 mb more than firefox (before 57) and opera, it's not that much to me as of quantum, it seemed fast to me, still ugly but fast nonetheless

vivaldi - resource heavy chrome / opera / vivaldi / edge - closed source firefox - ugly, slow firefox quantum - slower waterfox - insecure

Not gonna lie, seeing closed source as a discounting issue is a bit funny to me ?

Not gonna lie, seeing closed source as a discounting issue is a bit funny to me ?

Welcome to the open source world, thriving at the tip of security because it is auditable.

Especially with browsers.

oh and a slow HDD

Then maybe is the HDD. Fedora laptop is 4GB RAM, Dual Core, and with over 10 years of use. The HDD is new though. Debian netbook is 1GB RAM, Atom N450 (single core) and age undefined. With both I use Firefox along other apps, like Telegram or WPS office and works fine.

Especially with browsers.

if you want an open source browser you can use Eolie

Welcome to the open source world, thriving at the tip of security because it is auditable.

Meh, I'm fond of any software if it works. :) Hence why most of my programs are OSS, yet some aren't.

it has some bugs but it seems promising

if you want an open source browser you can use Eolie

I stick to chromium.

yeah actually i dont think 57 is that ugly

its actually nice

Meh, I'm fond of any software if it works. :) Hence why most of my programs are OSS, yet some aren't.

Even if there would be a technically better browser than chromium but it had closed source components - i wouldnt choose it.

it's not always useful :D ever search for something like systemd.service ? :D

Browsers have to be open.

Even if there would be a technically better browser than chromium but it had closed source components - i wouldnt choose it.

You do you. :)

yeah actually i dont think 57 is that ugly

well to me is not about the interface, it about the way the interface is done, is not about the skin

well to me is not about the interface, it about the way the interface is done, is not about the skin

the interface is done quite ok

much better than 56

much better than 56

i agree on that

you do need to customise it a little

like the address bar really needs to be full width

/me has three spacers on either side of my address bar :3

you do need to customise it a little

see?that's what i hate about opera, you have things you can't customize

operas default look is far better than most browsers

see?that's what i hate about opera, you have things you can't customize

and apart from skin what would you want to customise

you can customise speed dial

you can customise the sidebar

and apart from skin what would you want to customise

i'll give you some example

you can disable features

there are mouse gestures predefined

that can't be added or customized

in vivaldi i can customizze those the way i want it

and configured some simple actions for my father

another example is the left panel

that black is a punch in the eye to me

What the tabs very on top with nearly no window decoration?

and can't be changed

and can't be put on the right

What the tabs very on top with nearly no window decoration?

Yes, CSD

https://fedoramagazine.org/firefox-quantum-look-native-f27/

my father for example is used to have bookmarks on the right, he can have it in vivaldi but not in opera

operas default look is far better than most browsers

i still dont get whats bad about chromiums ui.

is the only browser that does not have a simple list of bookmarks

my father for example is used to have bookmarks on the right, he can have it in vivaldi but not in opera

vivaldi is even worse with sources.

i still dont get whats bad about chromiums ui.

its just ... ugly

i dont know how to put it

ive hated the tabs since they were parallelograms and the window was blue

its just ... ugly

And Opera just is a non-rounded tab version of it.

Yes, CSD

It's nice. But nothing that I pay attention to. Maybe in my netbook. It would be useful if they adapted the interface to small screen. Everything looks huge here. But the window decoration doesn't bother me, it's too peripheral to my focus.

It has a pretty logo

And Opera just is a non-rounded tab version of it.

opera used to have a really nice tab look

vivaldi is even worse with sources.

sources?well at least they don't sell our data to ad soceties, which was the reason they split up

yuk

ive hated the tabs since they were parallelograms and the window was blue

Why? Tabs are awesome! What would you prefer? A new window for every website?

opera used to have a really nice tab look

yes...i somewhat miss the style of opera 12

Why? Tabs are awesome! What would you prefer? A new window for every website?

i mean parallelogram tabs

Ah

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I can't care less.

Yeah, I see, but it doesn't bother me.

:/

Yeah, I see, but it doesn't bother me.

it bothers me for some reason

Well, it would be prettier if they would make the borders softer. But I'm not starting a revolution for it.

you also cant make the toolbar larger on a touchscreen

Well, it would be prettier if they would make the borders softer. But I'm not starting a revolution for it.

d'oh, i can choose the way my borders are in vivaldi :P

I have no touchscreen, so those features are lost in me ?

I have no touchscreen, so those features are lost in me ?

also i dont like the downloads interface

i prefer it the way firefox does it

with a button on the top

d'oh, i can choose the way my borders are in vivaldi :P

Really? I didn't know. I'm busy doing stuff to pay attention to the shape of tabs. As long as they work, it's fine for me.

bold blue line looks ugly on w10

eh i dont mind that too much but yeah

Really? I didn't know. I'm busy doing stuff to pay attention to the shape of tabs. As long as they work, it's fine for me.

in fact i left default ones but in an update they stated you can make the browser look the way you want it and they were explaining that thing

by the way, a mesi-related thing

i'm a vivaldi translator, and they are sending us translators a christmas gift as a recoinassance, curious to know what is it :P

sources?well at least they don't sell our data to ad soceties, which was the reason they split up

How do you know? Can you verify? Can you read their code?

The mission statement/legal docs on their pages mean exactly zero, as seen with mozarella and cliqz.

I like them - i only wish for them to scroll like ff when there are too many

How do you know? Can you verify? Can you read their code?

no i can't but why split then?and anyway if they are no different then i see no point in using a browser that does not differs at all from the others :) i could then stick to edge in windows or firefox in fedora

tree style tabs the best tabs ?

tree style tabs the best tabs ?

^

tree style tabs the best tabs ?

which are?can you give an example of that?

no i can't but why split then?and anyway if they are no different then i see no point in using a browser that does not differs at all from the others :) i could then stick to edge in windows or firefox in fedora

Ew edge.

Dont call that a browser please

You are insulting Browsers.

which are?can you give an example of that?

there's a plugin to firefox which provides that - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/

are you talking about this?

Dont call that a browser please

But it is a browser. ?‍♀️