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Victor
06.12.2017
03:46:41
Guys, did anyone found out a way to run Hangouts on new Firefox Quantum?

diffract
06.12.2017
04:22:40
Just use normal firefox, don’t depend on beta software

Albatrosicks
06.12.2017
04:48:54
Firefox quantum is not on beta

Emergency
06.12.2017
05:43:55
Google
Emergency
06.12.2017
05:44:19
Not really necessary

Kohane
06.12.2017
09:27:54
Firefox quantum is not on beta
There's always a beta version and there are always nightly builds, but Firefox 57 is stable now.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:07:29
how is vivaldi

first time i used it, it was very slow

and by slow i dont meen the engine, i mean the browser was resource heavy

247
06.12.2017
10:08:41
well

it's a little resource heavy

but to me the only problem is the slow opening time

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:10:48
is it open source or closed like opera

247
06.12.2017
10:11:38
well it should be closed but based on lot of open source things (it should as i don't know well)

but it's not completely closed as opera

anyway to me it's miles ahead other browsers (apart from the starting time)

Google
247
06.12.2017
10:13:19
at the end is using as much ram as others (some people even says that chrome uses more memory)

but it offers tons of customizations that others are completely lacking

Tobias?
06.12.2017
10:13:50
but it's not completely closed as opera
Anything closed, especially if its everything but the base engine, is closed source.

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:15:27
and by slow i dont meen the engine, i mean the browser was resource heavy
I only notice that is a bit heavy on resources when I open it alongside Firefox. Otherwise, it works fine for me.

Vitalii
06.12.2017
10:15:52
247
06.12.2017
10:16:01
ok...still (to me) remain the fact that it's the perfect home for people who left opera when opera 15 came out

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:16:02
247
06.12.2017
10:16:03
:)

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:16:23
i used to use Opera 12

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:16:45
well it should be closed but based on lot of open source things (it should as i don't know well)
How can you make closed source software from open source? The license states that you have to keep it open. Or am I missing something?

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:17:28
its always been too heavy for me, compared to opera and chromium
Oh. Okay. Well, maybe it depends on the hardware available.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:17:49
if its GPL, its LGPL not regular GPL

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:17:54
blink is 3 clause BSD
What? I didn't get it.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:18:08
What? I didn't get it.
different licenses have different stipulations

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:18:14
Ah, okay.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:18:23
MIT and BSD allow you to use Open Source stuff in propreitary closed source software

Google
247
06.12.2017
10:18:38
i like Operas current iteration
weeeeell, it's fast and in some way i like it too, but it's missing really basic things, for example it's the only browser who do not have a basic list for bookmarks, and even if it offers some advanced features you can't customize those

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:19:05
Ah, okay.
and LGPL allows you to use the open source components, as long as you keep that part open source even if the rest of your code is closed

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:19:16
Right. Got it.

247
06.12.2017
10:19:23
for example you have the useful panel on the left, but it stays on the left, in vivaldi you can choose where to put it

and anyway they are very close to the community and that is a nice thing

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:19:58
ive never found that panel too usefull

the thing i loved about old opera were tab stacking and speed dial

oh and the inbuilt torrent downloader

and properly pausing downloads

247
06.12.2017
10:20:35
well tab stacking and speed dial are there

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:20:52
new opera has speed dial

247
06.12.2017
10:20:58
and tab stacking is working very well

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:20:59
and save tabs to speed dial folder

and you can just restore them

edge has a feature like this iirc

saved tabs or someshit

i use these features so much

247
06.12.2017
10:21:44
new opera has speed dial
yes but i hate suggestions in the speed dial because they are confusing and opera is full of them

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:21:54
from the speed dial cog

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Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:22:11
the only thing i really miss is tab stacking

and that for webpage compression, adblock and a vpn when i need it

i dont use opera anymore, but id choose new Opera over Vivaldi if its still slow

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:23:03
Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:23:34
you can even disable the ugly search bar in opera speed dial

247
06.12.2017
10:24:06
you can disable that search bar too in vivaldi...but in reality i'm used to see it

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:24:07
i dont use opera anymore, but id choose new Opera over Vivaldi if its still slow
Why not Firefox? Quantum is way better. I'm using it on a small netbook and gives no problems at all.

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Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:24:21
Why not Firefox? Quantum is way better. I'm using it on a small netbook and gives no problems at all.
because tobias is right, the new engine sucks, the old engine sucked

Tobias?
06.12.2017
10:24:25
oh and the inbuilt torrent downloader
Needless, downright dangerous garbage on top - that cant be properly audited too.

You are essentially trusting a closed source torrent downloader with it.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:24:50
Why not Firefox? Quantum is way better. I'm using it on a small netbook and gives no problems at all.
the only real competitor to current blink is Edge, though it doesnt seem to do too well in benchmarks either

it does seem to perform very well in real life

Tobias?
06.12.2017
10:25:12
the only real competitor to current blink is Edge, though it doesnt seem to do too well in benchmarks either
Please dont put shame in browsers by referring to edge or ie as a Browser.

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:25:21
because tobias is right, the new engine sucks, the old engine sucked
Well, I completely disagree. Firefox Quantum is great. But to each his own.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:25:35
both in terms of resource utilisation and loading pages compared to chromium

im on f27 too right now

247
06.12.2017
10:26:12
i have tried quantum and to me it seems as fast as vivaldi, but then i hate that firefox interface

Google
247
06.12.2017
10:26:30
and anyway, waterfox was faster even without quantum

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:26:42
i only really use it because its relatively lightweight

247
06.12.2017
10:26:45
Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:26:59
i just want an open source Opera goddamit

Tobias?
06.12.2017
10:27:35
and anyway, waterfox was faster even without quantum
But waterfox is a security risk and a horror to people like me that develop.

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:27:52
247
06.12.2017
10:28:01
Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:28:02
the only conclusion is there are no good browsers

Kohane
06.12.2017
10:28:25
Maybe is a matter of extensions? I'm using Firefox Quantum in a 1GB RAM netbook and in a 4GB RAM laptop (Debian Testing and Fedora 27), and in both works smootly. I can use it alongside other programmes and it doesn't slow down the machine.

Tobias?
06.12.2017
10:28:42
elaborate
Super super slow to port security updates back, refusal to adapt new enhancements in both speed and security and to this very day can't resolve a promise - breaking every modern framework.

247
06.12.2017
10:28:46
Chromium. :P
no i rally can't stand that interface... :P probably i would go internet explorer or opera 12 before chromium :P

Kawaii
06.12.2017
10:28:52
vivaldi - resource heavy chrome / opera / vivaldi / edge - closed source firefox - ugly, slow firefox quantum - slower waterfox - insecure

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