Do I loose any apps by not having gplay?

Any apps that require gplay.

Any apps that require gplay.

Is it only notifications?

You can replace GCM with microg and co but privacy advocates and all would go against it.

Any apps that require gplay.

Like Google apps)

and the next one is maybe 20th update or so... ;)

and the next one is maybe 20th update or so... ;)

Still limited

Is it only notifications?

"Whatsapp" for example, unless you manually install it. Signal as its spyware anyway. And the only app that hurt me: poweramp.

Still limited

in what sense?

It won't be updated for 1000 years or so

"Whatsapp" for example, unless you manually install it. Signal as its spyware anyway. And the only app that hurt me: poweramp.

Signal is spyware?

Don't fight

Please

Signal is spyware?

Libresignal banned, extensive slashes against any f-droid attempt for it and you must use gcm to talk to it.

"Whatsapp" for example, unless you manually install it. Signal as its spyware anyway. And the only app that hurt me: poweramp.

Yea. I sadly use WhatsApp.

Every single instance of these sounds so highly "nope" that - dont use it.

It won't be updated for 1000 years or so

i know but anyway four years of updates are passed and they said they have no plans on stopping support that model :)

Yea. I sadly use WhatsApp.

You can continue to.

But it needs to manually pull messages which can add a tiny bit of battery usage.

Wish xmpp was great and everyone used it. Im fed up of proprietary apps

i know but anyway four years of updates are passed and they said they have no plans on stopping support that model :)

http://blog.streamr.com/2017/11/streamr-jolla-zipper-blockchain-phone/ Jolla has supported this. I didnt believe in jolla when they tried homescreen ads and rejected it after community outrage and after this bs - its not like they are fluent anymore with money either.

Libresignal banned, extensive slashes against any f-droid attempt for it and you must use gcm to talk to it.

what would you suggest? :P

Wish xmpp was great and everyone used it. Im fed up of proprietary apps

You can use on app chat with every person in the world that has any messenger and a phone, guaranteed.

You can use on app chat with every person in the world that has any messenger and a phone, guaranteed.

Delta Chat

what would you suggest? :P

Telegram for normal people, Riot.im / XMPP based anything for technical people

?

Isn't telegram's server implementation proprietary?

That sucks

yeah it is

Isn't telegram's server implementation proprietary?

thats why riot.im

And as said delta chat

http://blog.streamr.com/2017/11/streamr-jolla-zipper-blockchain-phone/ Jolla has supported this. I didnt believe in jolla when they tried homescreen ads and rejected it after community outrage and after this bs - its not like they are fluent anymore with money either.

they say it's the contrary...they says they are more monetary fluent now...anyway they have had 3 death valleys (as they calls them) but they are still surviving...

thats why riot.im

Is that the matrix thingy

Is that the matrix thingy

a client used to connect with matrix

and anyway, the partner screen was a thing that could have been used by partner vendors to promote services,

And as said delta chat

that's Telegram lol

the interface I mean

And as said delta chat

So delta chat uses email?! How can that be fast?

and the only service released was a music streaming service with the intex phones, so it was not present in official jolla phones

The best phone for lineage is 1. Popular 2. Qualcomm-based 3. With official kernel source and with official lineage support

Is there any archive for android nonofficial firmwares?

about zypper, the community seems quite happy about it...

Is there any archive for android nonofficial firmwares?

Even don't think about 4pda

4pda, xda

I always post on 4pda

So only Russian-speaking people can find and install)))

4pda sucks, really, too many crappy fanmade firmware with crappy software and preinstalled nov...shit launchers

If you want a good Matrix desktop client (similar to Telegram Desktop), you can install nheko from COPR: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/xvitaly/matrix/

I will push nheko desktop client to Fedora's repositories when it will reach version 1.0.

Any screens?

Vitaly, the secret Master of the Chatprograms. XD

Will riot work on multiple devices or does it require phone to be on?

Will riot work on multiple devices or does it require phone to be on?

Yup, multidevice

Doesn't need phone number

Any screens?

https://github.com/mujx/nheko

Just email

I am trying to push people to use it

Will riot work on multiple devices or does it require phone to be on?

Yes, ofc. No, phone number is not required. You can even install your own server.

4pda sucks, really, too many crappy fanmade firmware with crappy software and preinstalled nov...shit launchers

Nobody cannot make a good firmware on 4pda. DOES IT GODDAMN HARD TO replace samsung apps with ordinary apps of android/old cyanogen, take touchwiz things out, remove knox and wipe everything from google?

But it's still young

Will riot work on multiple devices or does it require phone to be on?

Even better, no phone number needed to register AND you can e2e encrypt groupchats AND share your key across devices.

But it's still young

Its not.

Matrix is pretty much fully featured and very stable.

How does it sync between devices?! :F

Clients dont need to be complex

ERROR: S client not available

I mean Riot

Not Matrix

How does it sync between devices?! :F

The matrix server holds all encrypted messages.

I thought whatsapp/signal had issue of not being able to do that

If you have a key to open it you can open it, no matter your device.

How does it sync between devices?! :F

Yes.

You can also host your own

I thought whatsapp/signal had issue of not being able to do that

Because their implementation only allows for one other party to listen in. :P

yea, i'm fed up of telegram trying to be the cool alternative for FOSS folk...

which they are not

It is not 100%

But let's face it

It has many cool features

sends messages?

and what else?

Stickers, gif, multidevice sync, many people are already there.

Most arent bothered by using telegram and whatshit in parallel either

I use Whatshit mostly for family and some close friends

multidevice sync is a cool thing to be honest, thats why riot thing seems promising

and Telegram for almost everything else

Stickers, gif, multidevice sync, many people are already there.

+ build-in transports to IRC and other networks.

+ build-in transports to IRC and other networks.

riot has that too, right?

+ build-in transports to IRC and other networks.

Thats matrix

Telegram just has bots doing that

riot has that too, right?

Riot is just a name of official Matrix web client.

Riot is just a name of official Matrix web client.

yea, i guess i should refer to matrix as matrix then. sorry ;p

And Telegram is extremely popular, many peole use telegram only, and that will be hard to bring them to other messengers

And what is matrix, btw?

And what is matrix, btw?

protocol

just like IRC

Hmm

Too many protocols nowadays