Still don't understand why people just don't use Fido

for example, in China you got WeChat

in USA people just use iMessage because Apple is dominant

in Europe there's WhatsApp

Still don't understand why people just don't use Fido

Fidonet is dead 15 years ago.

And Telegram is extremely popular, many peole use telegram only, and that will be hard to bring them to other messengers

i can use telegram even in my jolla, so i don't see any reason to switch :P

in Europe there's WhatsApp

in italy whatsapp is really dominant

in Europe there's WhatsApp

In Russia we have VK's messages too, but there are lots of telegram users in any counrty of the world

like 10 people out of 10 have whatsapp and 3 out of 10 have tg

Here in Albania 95% of the people use WhatsApp

Fidonet is dead 15 years ago.

Fidonet was alive, still alive, and will be forever

(No)

Finding someone that uses TG is a miracle

I mean by themselves and not implied or forced to

Fidonet was alive, still alive, and will be forever

No. I was member of Fidonet since 1999.

No. I was member of Fidonet since 1999.

Just joking

Finding someone that uses TG is a miracle

i know, in fact i almost forced 3/4 of my friends

And modern versions of ICQ not so bad

and they use it just for me

oh I did the same too lol

but only used it for some cases

And modern versions of ICQ not so bad

Ha-ha. Nice joke. ?

for example when I created a group for an exam in college

so I forced them to join TG otherwise they couldn't be part of it

?

Ha-ha. Nice joke. ?

I've checked. Better than Viber and WhatsApp, and has legacy support

oh I did the same too lol

in reality i just forced some of my friends

And modern versions of ICQ not so bad

But it's kind of late with being not so bad (:

the others made me a surprise and went on tg

But it's kind of late with being not so bad (:

Right (

I've checked. Better than Viber and WhatsApp, and has legacy support

It now require phone numbers and belongs to Mailru - russian Evil corporation.

I've checked. Better than Viber and WhatsApp, and has legacy support

Viber is a shithole

It now require phone numbers and belongs to Mailru - russian Evil corporation.

And Telegram not?

but they still use wa for almost anything

It now require phone numbers and belongs to Mailru - russian Evil corporation.

Everything in russia belongs to mail ru

Everything in russia belongs to mail ru

Telegram don't. Yandex don't.

Telegram don't. Yandex don't.

Telegram registered in USA

is that better if it belongs to the US?

And mail ru has 30% of yandex

is that better if it belongs to the US?

Compairing to mail group in Russia... yeah, it definitely is.

And mail ru has 30% of yandex

O_o

is that better if it belongs to the US?

same situation as with DDG

it provides a false sense of privacy

is that better if it belongs to the US?

Telegram never will belong to mail ru because VK was basically stolen from Durov to mail ru

You're totally wrong There are a lot of devs there. A lot of phones. It's too stupid to judge a community by a couple of roms

4pda sucks, really, too many crappy fanmade firmware with crappy software and preinstalled nov...shit launchers

Nobody cannot make a good firmware on 4pda. DOES IT GODDAMN HARD TO replace samsung apps with ordinary apps of android/old cyanogen, take touchwiz things out, remove knox and wipe everything from google?

We have a lot of things no one in the world has

Telegram never will belong to mail ru because VK was basically stolen from Durov to mail ru

I think he hates them

Many xda roms are just re-uploaded

For example, mediatek devices

No one in the world has as much as some of us do

You're totally wrong There are a lot of devs there. A lot of phones. It's too stupid to judge a community by a couple of roms

Maybe it's just random but there was no good roms for any of my phones

Maybe it's just random but there was no good roms for any of my phones

That was actually random

Many official lineage roms are made by our guys

And lots of others

And, what's the problem to make normal absolutely clean firmware?

And, what's the problem to make normal absolutely clean firmware?

No problem

And mail ru has 30% of yandex

As far as I can see, it's not true.

At all

The device you mentioned lacks devs on 4pda who care about clean roms

No problem

Why people makes their VasyanDolban228 SuperROM instead?

Why people makes their VasyanDolban228 SuperROM instead?

Because they like it))

Many people like roms that aren't just pure and clean

I'm now using miui for that reason

And for my devices I built custom roms like cenonhd or ressuractionremix instead of cyanogenmod

Sometimes i really starting to think of porting clear Android on my samsung by myself

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Sometimes i really starting to think of porting clear Android on my samsung by myself

Well

Look here

Some Samsung phones don't have good kernel source and device tree

Sometimes i really starting to think of porting clear Android on my samsung by myself

You need AOSP, your drivers as binaries, which you can access and you can try to do that.

We are unable to build clean roms for that reason

Some Samsung phones don't have good kernel source and device tree

But how other people makes roms?

We are unable to build clean roms for that reason

We can with the blobs And if I'm not mistaken, there is a LineageOS for samsung

But how other people makes roms?

For exactly your model?

For exactly your model?

Yes

We can with the blobs And if I'm not mistaken, there is a LineageOS for samsung

Not everytime

Yes

So why not to use them?

Not everytime

Can you show an exact error or an issue?)

Not everytime

On my mt6577 I can never go more than KitKat

So why not to use them?

Because it's not clear enough

Can you show an exact error or an issue?)

Yes. Mediatek crap

We have modified gpu stack

Because it's not clear enough

TouchWiz is still there, shittu top panel still there, and so on

Yes. Mediatek crap

It's kinda hardware bug :D But you can search for another device with the same SoC and to try to find blobs for it.

And to build kitkat we need to make it all again with tons of reversing

It's kinda hardware bug :D But you can search for another device with the same SoC and to try to find blobs for it.

Nonono

It's impossible

Did you try

No one has ever made proper CyanogenMod 12 or higher for this platform

TouchWiz is still there, shittu top panel still there, and so on

I want something really really pure. Like an clear android without google services

Even cyanogenmod 11 is impossible to build

Did you try

Spent two years on it

I want something really really pure. Like an clear android without google services

maybe... stop using mobile phones :D

Even cyanogenmod 11 is impossible to build

Yeah LineageOS has official guides for cm14.1 and cm13

I want something really really pure. Like an clear android without google services

With the device tree on hand, that's a piece of cake to do

I want something really really pure. Like an clear android without google services

There is no absolutely clear rom on 4pda

just use LOS without GAPPS