You can get all that in atom

You can get all that in atom

right but atom IS slower

right but atom IS slower

Not since 1.19

They did the same thing cs code did - their editor window is now native code.

hmm

Which was the biggest slowdown - now you can edit 100mb sql files.

lemme try it then

lemme try it then

get the latest, they fixed even more slowdowns in 1.20

and so on

k

HOLY CHRIST YOU CAN MAKE APPS FOR A GOOGLE GLASS WITH PASCAL/DELPHI

Idk what idea is more stupid, coding apps for google glass or coding with delphi nowadays

HOLY CHRIST YOU CAN MAKE APPS FOR A GOOGLE GLASS WITH PASCAL/DELPHI

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HOLY CHRIST YOU CAN MAKE APPS FOR A GOOGLE GLASS WITH PASCAL/DELPHI

I believe the pascal apps are restricted the the retro models that look like pince nez :P

if it is "amdgpu" - lucky if it is "radeon" - whelp

Why radeon is so bad?

Why radeon is so bad?

radeon seems to be proprietary while amdgpu is open source, am I right?

radeon seems to be proprietary while amdgpu is open source, am I right?

I think radeon is also free ?

The AMD proprietary driver is Catalyst

I think radeon is also free ?

Nope

Nope

Sorry, I want to say free xd

Sorry, I want to say free xd

Free is not an open source :)

Free is not an open source :)

Free as in freedom :P

Why radeon is so bad?

amdgpu gets the official amd devlove, documentation and the community just provides improvements to it like a full on vulkan framework (radv) radeon was the nouveau-equivalent, Comunity-based reverse engineering.

@ateixeira @Soccman @linuxmodder Sergey Welcome all! ?

who will try beta ?

Already on rawhide.

Yes, of course I can use fdisk

Parted is a better tool.

not me

Are you on Xwayland or wayland?

Right after I've stopped to google how to disable pulseaudio.

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Hi

Have Italia or Linux group from Italy ?

Fedora

Something looks like Fedora-it?

gbraad_: Look for ambassadors or mentors from Italy, and ask them

gbraad_: I forgot where to find this map, but we display those who have enter this info

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I really hope it is supposed to work with PulseAudio, not instead of it

I really hope it is supposed to work with PulseAudio, not instead of it

Since it has on its wiki that it wants to reimplement features of jack, alsa and pulse but with more precision, less problems than pulse and functioning from the start instead of "since poettering left"...

amdgpu gets the official amd devlove, documentation and the community just provides improvements to it like a full on vulkan framework (radv) radeon was the nouveau-equivalent, Comunity-based reverse engineering.

Is there a list of supported graphic chips for amdgpu?

Right after I've stopped to google how to disable pulseaudio.

Pulse has been working great for years. Heck firefox had disabled alsa support for a reason.

Is there a list of supported graphic chips for amdgpu?

everything after hd7800 or something.

everything after hd7800 or something.

What about built in chips?

What about built in chips?

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/AMDGPU

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/AMDGPU

Thanks)

What about built in chips?

Only if based on those cards or chip families

I really hope it is supposed to work with PulseAudio, not instead of it

Oh and i'm happy to finally have a promising replacement for pulse, alsa, jack and co at the same time with much harder focus on making it work the first time and without having to start several audio backends to get ardour to work alongside chrome and co.

Oh and i'm happy to finally have a promising replacement for pulse, alsa, jack and co at the same time with much harder focus on making it work the first time and without having to start several audio backends to get ardour to work alongside chrome and co.

I dunno, pulse works pretty good to me. Remembering what we had before it, and having zero problems with it (not counting the quirks when I dock the laptop, but I think docking stations are arch enemies of Linux) I hope the next attempt will be at least as successful

I dunno, pulse works pretty good to me. Remembering what we had before it, and having zero problems with it (not counting the quirks when I dock the laptop, but I think docking stations are arch enemies of Linux) I hope the next attempt will be at least as successful

You havent seen the pain that was pulseaudio when it came out then. Only when the feature-crazy main pusher behind it left the people had time to actually implement it to the state it is today.

And getting it to work in system mode so i can play two streams from a media server without ending mpd is still discouraged and explicitely not supported.

hey all

Which i deeply hope pipewire will not warn me about as well. XD

You havent seen the pain that was pulseaudio when it came out then. Only when the feature-crazy main pusher behind it left the people had time to actually implement it to the state it is today.

I did, and it still was better than "hardware mixer or only one application at a time" + applications which supported either alsa or esd, so choose which one will you use today ?

Oh and i'm happy to finally have a promising replacement for pulse, alsa, jack and co at the same time with much harder focus on making it work the first time and without having to start several audio backends to get ardour to work alongside chrome and co.

What about delays for for live sound recording?

27 beta delayed, I take it?

What about delays for for live sound recording?

If you record from live you wouldnt really mind it coming to file 50 ms later, would you?

Sorry to interrupt the thread, btw

If you need to use that audio right after let pipewire handle it and send it to where its supposed to - it says to explicitely focus on professional applications so my guess would be realtime compat with jack's old ways.

If you record from live you wouldnt really mind it coming to file 50 ms later, would you?

Yes, <50 it is normal. There are troubles if delays come to 150 even

27 beta delayed, I take it?

Delayed by a week , yeah

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Yes, <50 it is normal. There are troubles if delays come to 150 even

Heck pulse gives me way less delay than that.

Delayed by a week , yeah

Oh, okie.

Heck pulse gives me way less delay than that.

It is much easier to manipulate with a lot of files for mixing if there is low latency.

It is much easier to manipulate with a lot of files for mixing if there is low latency.

I know. Pulse gives me that low a delay even when working hard on several applications.

Sorry to interrupt the thread, btw

lol

Are you on Xwayland or wayland?

sry about stupid question :D How can I know that ? Dont laught

sry about stupid question :D How can I know that ? Dont laught

We all have to start somewhere - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems

sry about stupid question :D How can I know that ? Dont laught

echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE

echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE

X11

so its not wayland

@admins?

Give me a moment, please.

Done @brajiraofthemessiah

Excellent!

Excellent!

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Funny. I think of Bruce Dickinson when I hear "Excellent!"

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54499378e4b003f5babae12f/t/5678c74b4bf118d6ee51fd5a/1450755926438/

https://fedoramagazine.org/improved-multimedia-support-pipewire-fedora-27/ https://fedoramagazine.org/improved-multimedia-support-pipewire-fedora-27/

Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?

Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?

You can say that.

Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?

Fusion has both free and non free software

Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?

It works ver y similar

Cool apps like vlc, openshot, kodi and MPlayer have theirs home in rpmfusion

Cool apps like vlc, openshot, kodi and MPlayer have theirs home in rpmfusion

s/vlc+mplayer/mpv/

Is rpm fusion like non free debian repo?

No its not. you can select to install free or free and nonfree.

free only holds patent-encumbered things - ffmpeg and dpenedant things like telegram for example.

nonfree also holds closed source things like nvidia.

I'm facing a problem with my network ethernet adapter It was working just fine until yesterday. In the same laptop wireless working fine. I'm using Fedora 26. Does anyone have a similar problem?