If a bootloader loads firmware X or Y, what difference does it make to it

Different handoffs for wifi, different stack versions for bluetooth, slightly changed baseband interface..

As in 14.1 Stable or something

Different handoffs for wifi, different stack versions for bluetooth, slightly changed baseband interface..

That's not the bootloader though

Anyway I'm not willing to try Lineage again until it releases something that can qualify as stable

It is stable if you'd just flash your drivers.

It is stable if you'd just flash your drivers.

I didn't flash anything with AOSPA either and it works perfectly fine

That's not the bootloader though

Oh and the bootloader might have different ways to start a rom - the android 5 note boottloader can not boot any 6+rom

Because it includes the drivers it expects

I didn't flash anything with AOSPA either and it works perfectly fine

because it includes those.

Oh and the bootloader might have different ways to start a rom - the android 5 note boottloader can not boot any 6+rom

Again the ROM booted fine

Because it includes the drivers it expects

it shouldnt have to.

It worked fine to a degree

Just weird bugs all over

Again the ROM booted fine

But might have internal proplems like you described.

Just weird bugs all over

exactly.

Stuff like night light didn't work either

Book-perfect signs of firmware not updated.

Anyway I'm not willing to try Lineage again until it releases something that can qualify as stable

It never will. they put the release cycle to "nightly" as nightly and "snapshot" as stable.

Right

So I'll just be happy on AOSPA

By the way is Lineage still cluttered with duplicated features?

By the way is Lineage still cluttered with duplicated features?

no

Last I checked there were 2 night lights (both didn't work, hilarious), 3 types of silent profiles and whatnot

Last I checked there were 2 night lights (both didn't work, hilarious), 3 types of silent profiles and whatnot

.... I have no idea what you did to your phone.

.... I have no idea what you did to your phone.

I flashed Lineage

I regretted every bit of it

That's what I did

And no, there was never two night lights - just two toggles for it. One in the quick settings and one in the settings.

I regretted every bit of it

All you'd need to do was update your firmware but sure.

But dont blame it on lineage for not wanting to pack in all your updates.

(Which are also limited in redistribution so you legally cant pack them in which some roms just dont give a fuck about)

(Which are also limited in redistribution so you legally cant pack them in which some roms just dont give a fuck about)

Hey, let's sue 95% of all OP3 ROMs

Hey, let's sue 95% of all OP3 ROMs

They could. They wont because they would kill their fanbase overnight.

They could anyway. its like spotify being in the AUR.

They could anyway. its like spotify being in the AUR.

Yeah let's not start about that again

Spotify can sue them to hell and back but they just dont give a fuck

Yeah let's not start about that again

:3

Either way I'll flash an older phone with Lineage and see if it's still such a pile of miserableness

Either way I'll flash an older phone with Lineage and see if it's still such a pile of miserableness

And you go at this totally unbiased and not waiting to jump at a slightly discoloured pixel?

And you go at this totally unbiased and not waiting to jump at a slightly discoloured pixel?

Yes, major bugs only

That sounded a heck of a lot different.

What?

"still such a pile of miserableness"

!= unbiased view.

"still such a pile of miserableness"

I don't have great experiences with it no, and I'll look sceptically at it

But I'm not going to nitpick at a broken icon or so

Take a picture if you find the magic second nightlight tough.

Take a picture if you find the magic second nightlight tough.

I will

Last I recall they were right below each other

Yes they had LiveDisplay and then something else

Might have removed it, idk

Latest nightly for my old phone is from 3/2017, great

Yeah only my current phone has up to date nightlies, and I'm not flashing it

Which is your older phone?

And it wouldn't be fair to pick an old version

Which is your older phone?

HTC One M7 or Sony Xperia M

And then a few others like the One S which aren't even officially supported

HTC One M7 or Sony Xperia M

Seems that either they had no changes pulled in months or the maintainer stopped - the m has more recent version tough

Sightly

By the way they don't even mention firmware on their wiki

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/oneplus3/install

Hmm the XDA topic includes a firmware post now

With outdated firmware

Tell you what I'll flash it on my OP3, can just use Titanium Backup anyway

With outdated firmware

But flash the most updated one please. :3

Oh and @Joker915 @skamath Seems he truly has the worst isp.

ERROR: S client not available

I entered admin as password

@Joker915 Keep it in here, others might be able to help you or chime in.

Especially since i dont know your DE so...

But flash the most updated one please. :3

Sure

The English, it hurts

This router belongs to sn_mrunal

DONT

Stop changing anything in there

But flash the most updated one please. :3

Wait but you just told me to flash the firmware belonging to the ROM :s I've always run Open Betas so I must've been on the latest back then

Its whoever is connected to your isp actually it seems - is a friend sharing his dsl line with you?

Its whoever is connected to your isp actually it seems - is a friend sharing his dsl line with you?

No

Wait but you just told me to flash the firmware belonging to the ROM :s I've always run Open Betas so I must've been on the latest back then

The problem is that open betas and aospa just load a new firmware one boot.

Its whoever is connected to your isp actually it seems - is a friend sharing his dsl line with you?

Maybe multiple customers on a single line

Stop changing anything in there

I changed password

I changed password

Which?

And you might really anger your isp. XD

Hello

You may just have killed the connection for your entire house.

Why.

Why did you do that.

Why did you do that.

No i haven't

I have only one laptop connected to Ethernet

The router there now has no connection anymore.

It cant be remotely managed, checked or updated anymore any anyone using it or its wireless network directly is now, well, connection-less.

But if i have killed all connections then i should not able to access Internet on Windows also But i can still access Internet on Windows just can't access on Fedora even when I'm using Fedora & windows in same laptop

@Wolfshappen https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/188565/

they do include firmware.

Thats a new one then