KDE is takes more. However it also depends on the distro and what they enable by default.

nope, gnome takes more

*sits around in his little corner of XFCE*

/names@TeledoraBot

*sits around in his little corner of XFCE*

Me too

xfce 4 lyfe, even though I've started using gnoem3 on my thinkpad and it works quite well

I won't give up https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/35

Hi guys I am a newbe and I need to schedule automatic updates between midnite and 6am. What is the best way to achieve this? I have free uncapped data during that period. Fedora workstation 26

So, how has the defaulted Wayland worked for you Fedora people?

Hi guys I am a newbe and I need to schedule automatic updates between midnite and 6am. What is the best way to achieve this? I have free uncapped data during that period. Fedora workstation 26

God for dnf-automatic

All details: http://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/automatic.html

So, how has the defaulted Wayland worked for you Fedora people?

Besides a few issues with screen capturing software, it works fine :)

Besides a few issues with screen capturing software, it works fine :)

So you can say it IS quite ready for the masses? ?

I would say yes :D

So, how has the defaulted Wayland worked for you Fedora people?

Better than I expected, I will still use X for serious purposes for now but I think it will be a good replacement

Better than I expected, I will still use X for serious purposes for now but I think it will be a good replacement

The final outcome is pretty clear though: X will go

nn

Better than I expected, I will still use X for serious purposes for now but I think it will be a good replacement

"serious purposes" like?

"serious purposes" like?

pretty much anything

"Running Applications that draw their UI as root" is the only thing x can do... well worse since thats a stupid idea to do.

"serious purposes" like?

like I will use it on my work computer until I have 100% confidence in Wayland

like I will use it on my work computer until I have 100% confidence in Wayland

What made you loose confidence?

Unless you have an nvidia.

What made you loose confidence?

I never gained it. I have Intels on both my work and home laptop, on my home laptop wayland sometimes crashes and in general works less smoothly than X did, so until I will trust wayland to be 100% stable I won't switch on my work laptop; also xfce doesn't have wayland version yet

I never gained it. I have Intels on both my work and home laptop, on my home laptop wayland sometimes crashes and in general works less smoothly than X did, so until I will trust wayland to be 100% stable I won't switch on my work laptop; also xfce doesn't have wayland version yet

How did you manage to make the more stable desktop server crash?

How did you manage to make the more stable desktop server crash?

Maybe not exactly crash, but after screen was locked I was unable to unlock it again; screen was black and computer didn't react to mouse or keyboard events, I had to power it down completely (I will do the full update and file a proper bug report once I have some time). That way or another, until I will be able to use Wayland without any issues for one whole Fedora release (just like I am using X now) I am sticking to X on my work laptop

Maybe not exactly crash, but after screen was locked I was unable to unlock it again; screen was black and computer didn't react to mouse or keyboard events, I had to power it down completely (I will do the full update and file a proper bug report once I have some time). That way or another, until I will be able to use Wayland without any issues for one whole Fedora release (just like I am using X now) I am sticking to X on my work laptop

I stick to wayland on my work laptop as it gave me much much much less headache than x from day one.

No bugs, no crash when moving windows between displays in the outer area...

I stick to wayland on my work laptop as it gave me much much much less headache than x from day one.

good for you, for me X is working okayish (not counting the display output configuration which is a mess, but the mess I know how to deal with), and while wayland is clearly superior it is not yet mature enough for me to use at work

good for you, for me X is working okayish (not counting the display output configuration which is a mess, but the mess I know how to deal with), and while wayland is clearly superior it is not yet mature enough for me to use at work

Again, wondering how you managed to make gnome wayland on f26 crash.

But guess if you found a way to make it so reliably... sure.

Bug report for more stability :3

I never gained it. I have Intels on both my work and home laptop, on my home laptop wayland sometimes crashes and in general works less smoothly than X did, so until I will trust wayland to be 100% stable I won't switch on my work laptop; also xfce doesn't have wayland version yet

I wonder when will xfce have a wayland version. Do you know about this?

Again, wondering how you managed to make gnome wayland on f26 crash.

The screen autolocked and I was unable to do anything other than power off the computer (music was still playing so it wasn't completely hung), possibly it is now fixed, but because of such issues I am postponing switching to Wayland; on the other hand I am still using the previous Fedora there... m,aybe I will do the upgrade today.

I wonder when will xfce have a wayland version. Do you know about this?

they are slowly rewriting stuff to GTK3, so I guess that is connected

oh thanks

Never use virtualbox if you can avoid it, because of crap like that.

always use virt-manager that uses the native kvm (and install windows drivers in any windows vm, including the virtio storage driver on setup from guestimage)

always use virt-manager that uses the native kvm (and install windows drivers in any windows vm, including the virtio storage driver on setup from guestimage)

Okay, But how can i solve this problem !

Okay, But how can i solve this problem !

dnf remove kernel-headers

Check that it doesnt remove anything vital.

dnf remove kernel-headers

mean kernel-headers ?

ye

wow it's will remove 111 package

well, dont do that then

well, dont do that then

Okay, any another way !

do you still have any kmods installed at all?

And of course, just ignore it as it should not impose any problems that i know of.

Well, aside permanently marking you as someone who tried vbox. XD

dnf list installed | grep kmod

Eh i'd ignore it and see it as sign to switch to boxes/virt-manager.

Eh i'd ignore it and see it as sign to switch to boxes/virt-manager.

sorry i dont understand what i do ?

sorry i dont understand what i do ?

Leave it as is and if your machine keeps working as intended - eh.

ERROR: S client not available

And never use vbox over virt-manager if you can help it. XD

And never use vbox over virt-manager if you can help it. XD

Sorry for the disturbance, after i removed VirtualBox and akmod-VirtualBox, when i try to use dnf remove VirtualBox- and press tab that's what i get

Sorry for the disturbance, after i removed VirtualBox and akmod-VirtualBox, when i try to use dnf remove VirtualBox- and press tab that's what i get

if dnf list installed | grep Virtual doesnt find them they arent installed but its just autocomplete finding them

if dnf list installed | grep Virtual doesnt find them they arent installed but its just autocomplete finding them

thank you, it's not installed

On my way too the first @Linuxpodden beer and burgers meetup

So you can say it IS quite ready for the masses? ?

Yeah. It is very good unless you use Proprietary NVIDIA driver which you do if you have nvidia card which you have if you have somewhat current laptop. So...

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Hi

Hullo

Someone else noticed that chromium runs some webpages with 100% CPU for no reason?

I don't use it

Firefox is fine for me

Someone else noticed that chromium runs some webpages with 100% CPU for no reason?

I've noticed this with Epiphany

Someone else noticed that chromium runs some webpages with 100% CPU for no reason?

https://twitter.com/adamjogrady/status/902351152460701697

https://twitter.com/adamjogrady/status/902351152460701697

I think that's not the case. Funny it happened on my own jekyll page, GitHub, and fedora magazine

https://twitter.com/adamjogrady/status/902351152460701697

some pages run a javascript bitcoin miner and reward you with pro membership if you generate enough

wow javascript bitcoin miner. fancy that

the length this guys will go

@jflory @Kohane or mods ^

English please

WTF???

.....

Is there some virtual hdd led?

.....

If you were joking, your sense of humour needs urgently a fix. If you were serious, well, this is not the place and you'll be banned if you try this kind of things again.

@jflory @Kohane or mods ^

Done.

Done.

??

YaCy

btw are u Yacy developer ?

https://twitter.com/adamjogrady/status/902351152460701697

apart from being a proof of concept, there is no way this would ever find a bitcoin

hello, fedora is still with sys, or you can use systemd