Jay
look man, i have no problem with you or anything else, what sucks for my usecase sucks, i followed the handbook and the vm-bhyve and freebsd wiki properly, and the issues were despite that, that is why i called them unexpected, and time efficiency is a thing, needing to debug unexpected issues when someone wants an vm up and running instantly isn't very time efficient, now this doesn't speak about industrial or other usecases, i won't be surprised if bhyve works almost the same as proxmox, xen or just plain kvm and some other userspace program for those and your usecases , it's just is always funny to see people say bhyve is better without mentioning how
Wikipedia has an answer for you: "bhyve performs about the same as its competitors with lack of memory ballooning and accelerated graphics interface, but bhyve has a more modern codebase and uses fewer resources. In the case of FreeBSD the resource management is more efficient. FreeBSD is also known for its exemplary I/O speeds; running bhyve from FreeBSD has a lot of advantages for time-critical virtual appliances by reducing I/O time, especially on disk and network related loads. "
Artel
Its not like you need to make sacrifices or uphold payments. Is free to do
Artel
If you need GRAPHICS like GPU then use PCI passthru
polyduekes
If you need GRAPHICS like GPU then use PCI passthru
there are systems with only one gpu
polyduekes
May I say it first? This issue bothers precisely 0 people excluding you
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mouse-problem-installing-windows-7-bhyve-guest.86163/ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/windows-7-x64-bit-virtualized-with-bhyve-several-problems-to-face-up-before-having-a-working-vm.83315/ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/trying-to-install-the-proper-driver-to-supports-xhci-usb-3-0-devices-like-my-mouse-in-windows-7-virtualized-with-bhyve.93312/ https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/1cj3jwm/trying_to_install_the_proper_driver_to_supports/ this is only for the windows 7 issue, you would find more for other issues as well
Artel
Few vm reboot's and TigerVNC shortcut will make it happen
polyduekes
Look man, 3 processes maxing out on unknown hardware and 100mbit isn't impressive at all. The rest is just namedropping. We are not r/SelfHosted where you run maximum number of services you don't understand
lmao what? where is that coming from? do you even know how resource intensive cpu hevc transcoding is, it is impressive that freebsd is able to manage that, and the ethernet chipset and the hdd is very shitty, so it is also impressive the network playback is instant, what is even your issue lol?
polyduekes
Passthru iGPU 😏
are you on purpose replying to wrong message XD? the only gpu is igpu :)
Artel
are you on purpose replying to wrong message XD? the only gpu is igpu :)
Then passthru it to VM guest, that will hyperconverge it to containers
polyduekes
Then passthru it to VM guest, that will hyperconverge it to containers
what is making you think i have to passthru the igpu to any container?
Artel
what is making you think i have to passthru the igpu to any container?
Im suggesting to do this inside virtual machine
polyduekes
Yes. A CPU at 1.00 load. Wow
lmao, do you really always speak about things without having any idea?
polyduekes
lmao, do you really always speak about things without having any idea?
this is what a single client making the server do hevc transcoding does, it's amazing that freebsd can handle two of these at once, have a stable network io at 100 mbyte(again mbyte not mbit mr. jay :) and on top of that having reasonable performance for other stuff
polyduekes
Ffmpeg. Where is the impressive stuff?
ahahah, so again you don't know how jellyfin does server sided hevc transcoding but you still want to speak kek?
polyduekes
Im suggesting to do this inside virtual machine
yes, i know that but you should still know that masking the only gpu to vm guest with pptdevs brings aboard host graphics issues
polyduekes
Do you? 😂
i clearly show what i say and my statements can be easily verified by matching from the docs or trying out yourself, unlike you
Jay
Wake me up when you do https://t.me/machinedependent stuff and has problems
polyduekes
You think you do. You posted a gif of 1 line. No context, no specs.
>doesn't have reading comprehension to realize how jellyfin uses ffmpeg and how much the cpu load is respective to hardware
polyduekes
You think you do. You posted a gif of 1 line. No context, no specs.
>again can't read the message about the system being 15 years old with the cpu specs
polyduekes
thanks for the comedy man
Artel
>again can't read the message about the system being 15 years old with the cpu specs
For legacy systems there is Linux and OpenBSD. FreeBSD is about *modern* hardware with *modern* demands, not consumer rip off malfunctioning "hardware"
Artel
If you trying to fit FreeBSD in wrong usecase atleast dont blame everyone around you
polyduekes
For legacy systems there is Linux and OpenBSD. FreeBSD is about *modern* hardware with *modern* demands, not consumer rip off malfunctioning "hardware"
do you think i complained about freebsd here? i praised freebsd's performance, and no freebsd doesn't consider this malfunctioning hardware, it's a normal but old amd64 system
polyduekes
oh man, i can't help laughing at the pitiable attempts to target me of these guys
polyduekes
anyways, have fun crying, i had enough comedy dosage for today
Jay
>again can't read the message about the system being 15 years old with the cpu specs
Still no specs. Just hand waving. As always. Thanks for your participation, kid
nami
Contributes appreciated: https://github.com/namiarj/zrollback/blob/main/usr/local/bin/zrollback
polyduekes
it's nice how many cool changes 14.3 is coming with
Sadra
Did you try using synaptics?
Yes but it didn't work too.
polyduekes
> The main issues with changing network ABIs come from jails. If ifconfig in > a 14.x jail doesn’t work in a 15.x jail, that’s a big problem. I wouldn’t > expect this to matter for the WiFi-specific parts. You’re almost always > configuring some virtual interface in a jail, not the WiFi bits. > Given the choice, I'd trade this being broken for better wifi support. But the rest(rest implying related to jails, vnet and wifi) will work. The proposed ABI breakage is confined to WIFI only i feel like giving an advice folks, the fact that context is important :)
Neville
Yes but it didn't work too.
Did you play with the touchpad settings in xfce?
Sadra
Did you play with the touchpad settings in xfce?
not XFCE itself but tried to configure X in some custom configuration directory like foo.bar.d/ under the X11 if i remember correctly ... and that also didn't work as well.
polyduekes
i am trying to log boottrace shutdown events to a log file using syslogd, but that isn't working because i assume that before those get written to /dev/console, syslogd is stopped for obvious reasons, so how should i go around logging those to a file
polyduekes
Mahdi
Hi people Can anyone explain to me how I can use GitLab CE on FreeBSD? Maybe with Docker? I can’t find any documentation to help me install Docker on FreeBSD.
Mahdi
is it possible to use docker on FBSD?
polyduekes
is it possible to use docker on FBSD?
you can use oci containers, if that's your goal
Mahdi
For emulating the Linux kernel to run GitLab on FreeBSD?
Mahdi
you can use oci containers, if that's your goal
to use Gitlab? i dont know what is the OCI‌ Containers
Mahdi
?🙃
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
For emulating the Linux kernel to run GitLab on FreeBSD?
emulating who? try making an alpine linux jail and run gitlab ce from there
Mahdi
🙏🏻
polyduekes
to use Gitlab? i dont know what is the OCI‌ Containers
https://opencontainers.org/about/overview/ https://appjail.readthedocs.io/en/latest/OCI/
Abhi
Fbi jail
Mahdi
Podman run in freebsd. does it work?
can i use Gitlab on Podman? i want to research about it...
Juraj
gitlab has extemsive documentation on FreeBSD
Juraj
https://gitlab.com/mfechner/freebsd-gitlab-docu/-/blob/master/install/17.11-freebsd.md
Juraj
also the docs on gitlab.com should be consuted
polyduekes
i have noticed that mem management on 14.3 has improved, mostly the application caching has really improved, opening an recently closed application is almost instantaneous now, zfs arc cache and wired mem have also become more optimized
Jay
Hi people Can anyone explain to me how I can use GitLab CE on FreeBSD? Maybe with Docker? I can’t find any documentation to help me install Docker on FreeBSD.
https://www.freshports.org/search.php?query=gitlab&search=go&num=10&stype=name&method=match&deleted=excludedeleted&start=1&casesensitivity=caseinsensitive
Mahdi
🙏🏻
polyduekes
https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/timetable/timetable-ABI-stability-in.html https://www.youtube.com/live/qAOymU5n5-E?t=7650 https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/timetable/timetable-Sandbox-Your-Program.html https://www.youtube.com/live/qAOymU5n5-E?t=16409 https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/timetable/timetable-ELF-Nightmares-GOTs,.html https://www.youtube.com/live/oGwElD3VnqA?t=19948 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pf5O3BwQAM https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/timetable/timetable-ZFS-Direct-IO.html https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/timetable/timetable-Controlled-credentials-transitions.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAOymU5n5-E some talks from bsdcan this year that i find interesting with timestamps(where applicable)
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
thanks for sharing with the timestamps. I'll add split ones to the channel once they upload the individual vids. Loading a 5+ hour video buffer is not optimal for certain regions
polyduekes
Abhi
wdym by "mask on"?
https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/