2. Did you do something or it just happened?
3. freebsd-version -kru? (and if you're on the CURRENT or STABLE, you can give me your specific kernel version (commit hash) via uname -a)
at least you could give me you freebsd-version.
any tcp and/or inet6 related in your sysctl configuration.
and also, simply look at the files inside the /var/crash to make sure.
Pouria
Pouria
At the end, you could create a bug in the bugzilla with all related information you could provide and cc me to follow up.
It's better to not continue discussing this panic in this group. a larger number of undocumented messages will be created and simply bothers other.
nami
at least you could give me you freebsd-version.
any tcp and/or inet6 related in your sysctl configuration.
and also, simply look at the files inside the /var/crash to make sure.
this is kernel version?
# uname -v
FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #9 main-79537a90dc36: Mon May 26 22:04:12 +0330 2025 nami@thinkpad:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC
loader.conf:
tcp_bbr_load="YES"
sysctl.conf:
net.inet.tcp.functions_default=bbr
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=3
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
Pouria
this is kernel version?
# uname -v
FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #9 main-79537a90dc36: Mon May 26 22:04:12 +0330 2025 nami@thinkpad:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC
loader.conf:
tcp_bbr_load="YES"
sysctl.conf:
net.inet.tcp.functions_default=bbr
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=3
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
Yes, you have build up to this commit 79537a90dc36a29b1c99c995651f4d7f98964af3. Submit your report in Base System, select the kern component, 15-CURRENT, and add me into the assignee section (Show Advance Fields).
Mahdi
Exactly
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/613
Abhi
Hello, what do you all use to emulate android?
Mahdi
Hi people
can anyone help me to install rust compiler in Freebsd? i cant find anything about it. why?
i must compile it?
Artel
sadness
https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=a0d4eb56b1b6c35146623ede770bd22a3083a596
Mahdi
Artel
sadness
https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=a0d4eb56b1b6c35146623ede770bd22a3083a596
What do you think? iXSystems (TrueNAS) are abandoning FreeBSD effort.
Will this result in loss of support by OpenZFS?
Will this be beginning of end of ZFS in FreeBSD?
Artel
Hello, what do you all use to emulate android?
QEMU. But realistically you *need* legit physical device. Most apps detect emulators and outright refuse to run in emulator, due it being SafetyNet or custom DRM.
Mahdi
What do you think? iXSystems (TrueNAS) are abandoning FreeBSD effort.
Will this result in loss of support by OpenZFS?
Will this be beginning of end of ZFS in FreeBSD?
sorry but i dont understand, What does this have to do with how Rust is installed in FreeBSD?
Artel
sorry but i dont understand, What does this have to do with how Rust is installed in FreeBSD?
No rust.
Open the link, its about removal of iXSystems from vendors list
polyduekes
What do you think? iXSystems (TrueNAS) are abandoning FreeBSD effort.
Will this result in loss of support by OpenZFS?
Will this be beginning of end of ZFS in FreeBSD?
freebsd team should deeply think where things went wrong for so many vendors and people in industry switched to linux
polyduekes
i still remember how most of the servers at intel and yahoo used to run freebsd in 2011
Artel
Junos became Junos Evolved (Linux)
TrueNAS is now focused on TrueNAS Scale (Linux)
NetApp ONTAP is moving to Linux, already utilizing SVMs a lot
Abhi
QEMU. But realistically you *need* legit physical device. Most apps detect emulators and outright refuse to run in emulator, due it being SafetyNet or custom DRM.
I wanted for Frida, I use Graphene os so can't root
polyduekes
I wanted for Frida, I use Graphene os so can't root
wdym, the pip installation for frida works, after that use remote connection
polyduekes
and well
polyduekes
there used to be some non root frida way iirc
polyduekes
or as you said before, you install as a system package for things you need root
Abhi
there used to be some non root frida way iirc
Too much work to add the Frida gadget to the apps, and I am new to it.
I was wondering if there is a way to just emulate a rooted android.
polyduekes
Too much work to add the Frida gadget to the apps, and I am new to it.
I was wondering if there is a way to just emulate a rooted android.
well like the other guy said, qemu
Mahdi
i cant find any way to install rust in Freebsd :(
polyduekes
freebsd team should deeply think where things went wrong for so many vendors and people in industry switched to linux
if i am to share my two cents after long thinking it's because two reasons mainly, first freebsd community is slow at picking the things which many people desire and forces them to switch, as has been the case with some syscalls and features like zram, second when eventually some things do get picked up, they get abandoned fast due to little community help like the case has been with capsicum and trustedBSD
polyduekes
in the truenas case, it was because freebsd was slow in the oci and lacking in the hypervisor race
Abhi
Linux is getting picked up not because they are better then windows. But because windows is turning very bad.
polyduekes
Linux is getting picked up not because they are better then windows. But because windows is turning very bad.
linux has been popular from the start, because of it's marketing towards students and being the first free one
Abhi
For bsd to get pick up again, linux needs to start turning bad...
Abhi
linux has been popular from the start, because of it's marketing towards students and being the first free one
No the recent spike in the user is due to windows becoming really bad.
Nothing to do with Linux being superior.
polyduekes
No the recent spike in the user is due to windows becoming really bad.
Nothing to do with Linux being superior.
those are just normal users, they don't help linux in any way
Abhi
Linux is superior since many years there has been such a huge spike in user right now
polyduekes
those are just normal users, they don't help linux in any way
the real ones that matters are vendors and contributors, they are the driving force for linux
polyduekes
the real ones that matters are vendors and contributors, they are the driving force for linux
freebsd has long lost a lot of them sadly
polyduekes
but it's still kinda surprising for me to see freebsd being more stable and having more raw performance compared to rhel stuff
Sadra
the real ones that matters are vendors and contributors, they are the driving force for linux
Don't forget the harsh and toxic ecosystem of linux community. maybe that's just the primary reason of why not many people are contributing to it.
Like removing Russian kernel maintainers ...
Abhi
Don't forget the harsh and toxic ecosystem of linux community. maybe that's just the primary reason of why not many people are contributing to it.
Like removing Russian kernel maintainers ...
Also politics, my personal observations when compared to Linux, bsd community usually doesn't hate other bsd systems. If they do they send pr and try to help out.
Quality people at bsd, there is some drama but it's very less.
Abhi
Peaceful life basically
Abhi
What poly said makes sense when I think about it.
The other thing is the license.
At Linux vendors are forced to send pr
The license thing is big.
Imagine apple actually contributed
Sadra
imagine beginners to linux, those who want to make a starting point.
therefore contribute to the FOSS projects.
they send a pr, and face a humiliating comment on that like if they're an idiot or something ... people expect them not to make mistakes ...
this stops them from being productive btw ...
Sadra
i saw this many times on Linux related PRs
Abhi
imagine beginners to linux, those who want to make a starting point.
therefore contribute to the FOSS projects.
they send a pr, and face a humiliating comment on that like if they're an idiot or something ... people expect them not to make mistakes ...
this stops them from being productive btw ...
Today I explained this exact thing to people of android community.
It breaks my heart watching people fight/make fun instead of sending pr
SludgyWitch
the community was what basically got me doubting in linux in general and ultimately made me switch to bsd (besides myriad of other reasons)
the linux community is basically like the linux distros, there is tons of contradictory approaches, one distro uses apt, the other dnf, the other one aur etc telling the other one that their approach is superior
it's so fragmented and full of needless arguments
SludgyWitch
i find the freebsd (and bsd community in general) is more united and welcoming in general
Abhi
So true most are good people.
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
i find the freebsd (and bsd community in general) is more united and welcoming in general
I dont think thats the right way to see that. Maybe a smaller comunity comparing to the whole thing is more welcoming to beging with .
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
Maybe the freebsd community has matured a lot so there is no reason to be mean anymore
Gowen
What do you think? iXSystems (TrueNAS) are abandoning FreeBSD effort.
Will this result in loss of support by OpenZFS?
Will this be beginning of end of ZFS in FreeBSD?
Some of the principal ZFS developers works at Klara.
polyduekes
i am not really surprised to be honest
Artel
Its so over... FreeBSD now left in ruins...
SludgyWitch
i'd also like to read some sources
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
I have seen people talking about freebsd been over sincr mid 90s
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
Bla bla bla
SludgyWitch
the only way i see klarna moving to linux is that they'd abandon their on-prem infra and have some cloud provider like Google or AWS who use linux
SludgyWitch
so it'd nake sense they'd migrate to linux but as of now there's no info whatsoever
polyduekes
what i wonder about is the worklows and tooling and requirements of all these vendors who switch to linux from freebsd
Maxim
what i wonder about is the worklows and tooling and requirements of all these vendors who switch to linux from freebsd
my wild guess is, they can't find people who are fluent in FreeBSD
Maxim
polyduekes
my wild guess is, they can't find people who are fluent in FreeBSD
well i am mostly speaking about the ones who made and are making the switch, this implies that they previously had people who were fluent in freebsd and unless every vendor which is making the switch/has made the switch fired all of them, this seems farfetched
Maxim
well i am mostly speaking about the ones who made and are making the switch, this implies that they previously had people who were fluent in freebsd and unless every vendor which is making the switch/has made the switch fired all of them, this seems farfetched
they probably had, like, 2 or 3 people who were fluent; those people decided to go forward, but there was no replacement for them
polyduekes
hmm, still sounds farfetched to me given that there is not much of a shortage of people who know their way around freebsd, so even after those 2-3 people left they could easily hire others
Maxim
hmm, still sounds farfetched to me given that there is not much of a shortage of people who know their way around freebsd, so even after those 2-3 people left they could easily hire others
oh come on, there is a shortage of people who can actually use a computer, what are you talking about?
Gowen
Allan Jude is a founder of KlaraNetworks and other FreeBSD developers are on taht boat too. I doubt a lot they will change to 'linux'.
polyduekes
for some reason my freebsd-14.2-release system doesn't have llvm-as and for some reason llvm19 is a runtime dependency of telegram-desktop, xorg and various xorg related packages, would anyone know what could be the reason
Maxim
for some reason my freebsd-14.2-release system doesn't have llvm-as and for some reason llvm19 is a runtime dependency of telegram-desktop, xorg and various xorg related packages, would anyone know what could be the reason
1. llvm-as exists as llvm-as${MAJOR_LLVM_VERSION}, for instance llvm-as19
2. llvm19 or whatever the version is often a runtime dependency of some packages, yes.
polyduekes
1. llvm-as exists as llvm-as${MAJOR_LLVM_VERSION}, for instance llvm-as19
2. llvm19 or whatever the version is often a runtime dependency of some packages, yes.
the default freebsd-14.2-release version is llvm18 for now, so it's kinda weird
Mr.
Poly
polyduekes
yes, and?
shouldn't that be the runtime dependency and should have an llvm-as for llvm 18?
Maxim
shouldn't that be the runtime dependency and should have an llvm-as for llvm 18?
that can't be the runtime dependency because the port is built for different versions of FreeBSD including (but not limited to) the previous 13.x releases, the 14-whatever release and current (15)
also, you do have as in your system, right? that's the llvm18 version
