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Best thing I can recommend you at this point is that you install some OS that you know it works under your machine, and then run a VM with FreeBSD where you can tweak and change settings without loosing functionality on that computer
Ihor
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Thank you for the advice
Your machine seems to be a bit tricky, and that way it will take time but you will learn a lot during de process. In order to use FreeBSD as a daily driver one really needs to understand how it works.
I started that way and I cannot even consider pro in terms of using it nowadays. I still learn a lot of things from it each day, and yet I have a lot to learn
Markuss
Alright I have gotten my drivers to initialize after building drm-kmod 5.6 from github source and also installing drm-kmod-firmware. But I have a problem. So I get the screen to flash at startup how it should be and kldstat shows that additional renoir modules finally have initialized, but when starting up xorg it freezes the tty and it stays like that. Like I see the old tty text and it's frozen once I type the startx command
Markuss
Markuss
these are the last words from xorg and it stays like that
Markuss
are there more stuff I need to install? As I have listed above, as these are the only ones I have installed on a fresh fbsd14 install:
drm-kmod 5.6 compiling from source, drm-kmod-firmware compiling from source, and installing xorg from pkg
XS
startx as root ? what's your ~/.xinitrc ?
Markuss
Markuss
I tried also booting xorg with my user account, which I added to video group and that didn't change xorg to work
Markuss
.xinitrc has these lines
exec startxfce4
Markuss
at first .xinitrc file didn't exist, so I needed to create it
Carl
startx must be launched with a common user always, sometimes, if you launch startx as root it generate a .Xauthority in your /home/user with the wrong owner ... so go to /home/user and take a look if .xinitrc and .Xauthority is owned by your user
XS
sorry, busy at work so driver is loaded ? what are the X logs ?
Markuss
sorry, busy at work so driver is loaded ? what are the X logs ?
kldstat gives me loaded drm, amdgpu and renoir modules. There are no xorg logs, as when I force shutdown I have no logs saved
Markuss
Carl
Markuss
only root has
Markuss
so I need to make one yes?
Carl
you must create the .xinitrc in your user folder ... yesy
Markuss
oki doki
Carl
and then, launch startx as user always ... never as root
Markuss
ok I made .xinitrc file in my user home folder
Markuss
and how to generate .Xauthority?
Carl
type startx
Carl
it autogenerate the file
Markuss
it's frozen again
Carl
then it's about the drivers, not the launcher
Markuss
hmm maybe then I need to try drm-kmod 5.7-wip
Carl
but whatever driver you instal ... try to launch it always as user ... never as root
Markuss
that means compiling and installing packages as user?
Markuss
or does it not matter?
Carl
you must install always as root ... i mean when you go to run the graphic mode
Markuss
ok, so I install stuff as root and starting xorg as a user right?
Carl
yep, always
Carl
run xorg as root is not secure, and there are some operative systems when you can not even launch it as root for security
Markuss
sounds fine. What packages are usually needed to make xorg run? Only things I have done, compiled drm-kmod 5.6 from github, compiled drm-kmod-fimrware from github too, xorg and xfce from pkg installer
Carl
i have an old integrated intel so i can not help you about new drivers,because the drm ones always run for me, sorry
Markuss
hmm the standard drm-kmod 5.4 drivers don't work for me. freebsd irc people say that my device id shows as working in 5.5 and 5.6
Markuss
and they aren't lying as kldstat now has found my renoir modules too as before I only had amdgpu and drm modules
Markuss
I'm going to need to troubleshoot more
Markuss
maybe there is some kind of bug in those versions, so I will need to find which one works for me
Carl
yep ... the last new laptop i bought years ago ... i had to wait one year for support ... i prefer to buy not so new hardware now ... i hate to wait for a good support
Markuss
I would say that too, but heh I'm not going to run and sell this laptop which have😂 Next time tho I will buy older one
Carl
i hanged from the "most new" to "the best supported" hardware when i buy something
Markuss
and not from HP and DELL as they haven't fixed acpi errors for linux
Markuss
well HP haven't done that
Markuss
I may be wrong about DELL
Markuss
I just saw online that someone had acpi problems with DELL laptops to
Carl
whatever ... if you really have come to bsd to stay ... you will see how your buying philosofy changes .. and you will value other things in the hardware
Carl
i hope you can find the solution to your trouble
Carl
going back to job 👍
Markuss
alright
Jaco
🇵🇸🍉
Anonymous
Jaco
ya could do #rm -Rf /* reboot ,, comes up no OS found. redo install.
Thanks 🙏 I'll try, I'm going to format the disk clean and try again.
I just wonder why that happens though? 🤔
Anonymous
no idea
Jaco
no idea
Let's hope by the 3rd install that i haven't flung this laptop against the wall😅
Jaco
Still no luck with this BS
Jaco
ZFS will be really slow with HDD and 6GB ram and i don't need the storage features
Santi
ZFS will be really slow with HDD and 6GB ram and i don't need the storage features
I would limit ARC with the tunable and still get pretty good performance in exchange for boot enviroments... if only it was that feature of ZFS
Jaco
I would limit ARC with the tunable and still get pretty good performance in exchange for boot enviroments... if only it was that feature of ZFS
I'm not that knowledgeable on FreeBSD yet but thanks🙏I'll go with ZFS and see how it pans out rather than waste hours on broken garbage
XADE
as compared to other fs ZFS will be a lot slower on HDD
XADE
not only bcuz of features
Jaco
as compared to other fs ZFS will be a lot slower on HDD
I read about this and that's what I'm afraid of, but GPT+UFS doesn't want to work.
I just reboot into the message above, about 5 installs later amd hours of wasted time
Jaco
I installed FreeBSD with GPT+UFS and it worked flawlessly on a VM. I don't know what the problem is now. I tried different memstick images too
Santi
I installed FreeBSD with GPT+UFS and it worked flawlessly on a VM. I don't know what the problem is now. I tried different memstick images too
you are going to loose some performance with ZFS but I preffer the features over the little loss on performance.
To limit RAM usage by ARC, use this tunable: vfs.zfs.arc_max ARC will always be giving back to the system allocated memory if the system starts to run out untilll arc min is met but, con low RAM systems I've found that limiting ARC give the system a little more snapines to it (could be placebo...)
Jaco
you are going to loose some performance with ZFS but I preffer the features over the little loss on performance.
To limit RAM usage by ARC, use this tunable: vfs.zfs.arc_max ARC will always be giving back to the system allocated memory if the system starts to run out untilll arc min is met but, con low RAM systems I've found that limiting ARC give the system a little more snapines to it (could be placebo...)
Thanks man! 😊I'll be sure to save this.
I did pick up the UFS + GPT thing has been a bug from 2018
Jaco
Some people from that time also ran into similar issues
wahaj
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OS freebsd-13
wahaj
Thanks it helped
Markuss
Markuss
it works🙈
Markuss
freebsd handbook and their wiki comes to mind
Markuss
but the handbook is the best place for knowledge
Markuss
I don't know about upgrading to a new release, but it should be possible to do.
Markuss
like from a current to a release