if you want to boot to another os you also only need efibootmgr

which means it is essentially centralized among OSes

the boot menu also there provided by the mobo firmware

Yep. efibootmgr is needed to be installed in at least one OS to hold the modified boot order and entries.

the downside of having rEFInd is that it's requiring two efi launchers which is kind of duplicating the same boot stage

because your efi firmware is one stage, rEFInd is another stage, but they are actually doing the same thing instead of booting into an OS

I tested once with a rescue cd if the boot entries would hold with efibootmgr not installed. It didn't. That was fun 😙

I tested once with a rescue cd if the boot entries would hold with efibootmgr not installed. It didn't. That was fun 😙

thats strange lol

because your efi firmware is one stage, rEFInd is another stage, but they are actually doing the same thing instead of booting into an OS

Totally agree with you ☺

freebsd is quite different to linux at the end in terms of boot phase as freebsd is having a beastie helping to load the elf image of kernel/kernel and some early boot driver such as kernel/zfs.ko into the virtual memory space, setting up the kenv and finally execute the elf image of kernel and go straight to mi_start(). All the stuff is already set up to be in long mode when you saw the lovely beastie on your screen

Yep. A few days back i was reading the handbook(i printed it out because i've never seen anything documented in so much detail. Its nice and very very informative 🙂) about freebsd boot process and checking out boot directory. Man it is crowded there 😃 Not making fun of it. but i am actually quite mesmerized by the way things are kept. Thoughtfully separated and structured. For every boot stage, there are different files. And helper files are also there. Efi files are also in boot directory.

freebsd is quite different to linux at the end in terms of boot phase as freebsd is having a beastie helping to load the elf image of kernel/kernel and some early boot driver such as kernel/zfs.ko into the virtual memory space, setting up the kenv and finally execute the elf image of kernel and go straight to mi_start(). All the stuff is already set up to be in long mode when you saw the lovely beastie on your screen

Long mode ?

Long mode ?

amd64 hehe

amd64 hehe

Ok. 😄

Has anyone of you experience with nosh? https://jdebp.eu/Softwares/nosh/

maybe as i currently use zsh 😂

i do want to see svc from illumos running on FreeBSD though

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Thanks

It seems that only xfce popular environment distributed under the license bsd, right? I just need use it in proprietary project. Or in this world exist more popular, bsd licensed Desktop Environment?

Thanks, i already saw it

No, I just need to consider all the options.too choose best

but thanks anyway

It seems that only xfce popular environment distributed under the license bsd, right? I just need use it in proprietary project. Or in this world exist more popular, bsd licensed Desktop Environment?

no, XFCE is not distributed under any variant of BSD licenses.

no, XFCE is not distributed under any variant of BSD licenses.

But wikipedia

But wikipedia

look up their repository instead

https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfwm4/blob/master/COPYING

https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfwm4/blob/master/COPYING

thanks, otherwise I would have searched without finding

by the way, please ask your lawyer to what extent you can deal with the BSD-licensed code. Of course you are definitely free to make combined work with any BSD-licensed code

but you still need to reproduce the BSD license for your product distributed in binary form

but you still need to reproduce the BSD license for your product distributed in binary form

it does not repel us

it does not repel us

repel?

actually it is safe to do so and unsafe otherwise

for anything not written in license in most juridism you are DISALLOWED to do so

this is how copyright work in most area...

for 2-clause BSD license there are two criteria you need to meet in order to agree on the terms:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

and the right you granted will be: redistribution and use of source code and its binary form

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

thanks, but I don’t want to show that this information has been absorbed by me to some extent

sorry could not understand what that really means

sorry could not understand what that really means

I mean i already knew this information

so you know it said clearly so

which means you are COMPELLED to follow what the license told you

which means you are COMPELLED to follow what the license told you

Yes indeed

Okay, since I figured out with the basis, I need to figure out a name for the freebsd distribution. Only what i could think out is "ApfelsineOS", and very banal AuroraUI

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Когда же уже у нас будет митап?

В москве вообще кто нибудь топит за фряху?

В москве вообще кто нибудь топит за фряху?

Топит

Упс всем, кто любит Freebsd в России и местных странах. Мы будем транслировать на FreeBSD и искусственном интеллекте сегодня в 19:00 (время Бразилии, Бразилия). Через несколько минут мы отправим ссылку на YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf-8RGfz8iU

Wow that one looks awful on dark background

word "thou" used only as an appeal to god?

"you" - plural or singular, "thou" - only singular

"thou" is archaic(one may encounter it in some dialects)

obviously

Thou shall not pass.

But I believe that's "shalt" then, not "shall".

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Need help to configure the wifi

Need help to configure the wifi

Feel like this group is dead, but what happened after trying the quick start section here? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html

After every reboot i have to configure the wifi

Its a kinda frustrating

I tried this

After every reboot i have to configure the wifi

Have you set it up in rc.conf? Is wpa-supplicant set up?

Yes

Can you share the relevant lines of rc.conf and wpa-supplicant.conf?

This one is bad...

Yup

I got the solution and was able to fix

This one is bad...

Whats wrong with it??? Mistake was in rc.conf

And kernel was not loading the iwm module

Whats wrong with it??? Mistake was in rc.conf

I was convinced that "key-mgmt" is mandatory...

Your rc.conf looks a bit messy anyway - those wlan_* lines do nothing for you. And - of course - to load modules by rc.d is a bad idea as well. And double "L" in dbus line.

Meh…

kld_list='usb_quirk accf_data accf_http amdsbwd amdtemp cc_htcp ehci if_ath_pci if_em if_re if_ste intpm mac_portacl ng_ether ohci radeonkms sem snd_hda speaker uhci xhci wlan_amrr wlan_rssadapt'