Anonymous
I'm more of a Unix history avid reader, I've never seen an actual SYSV or sunOS Unix system
Well the country I grew up with was dominated by DOS, even in universities
neb
I'm more of a Unix history avid reader, I've never seen an actual SYSV or sunOS Unix system
I too appreciate UNIX history. I've also ran OpenIndiana, which is based on illumos, which is based on OpenSolaris, which is forked from Solaris....
Anonymous
Well the country I grew up with was dominated by DOS, even in universities
The only places you could find Unix were large scale industrial sites built before the 1979 revolution
neb
Ah.
neb
🇮🇷
Anonymous
Anonymous
Yes
neb
Anonymous
Anonymous
I used the automatic installer if your wondering
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with a FreeBSD memstick installer you can pick any drive you have attached. So lets say your FreeBSD installer resides on one USB stick, The system will call this device da0. Your second USB target device device would then be called da1. FreeBSD can freely install to da1 and it works. The problem is at the end of installation you reboot and remove installer disk. Now all of a sudden what was once da1 is now trying to mount at da0. Failure. This is by design. So the suggestions here are showing you how to deal with the devices 'label' to successfully boot. Another way would be to edit /etc/fstab at the post install shell.
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@solaris557 check out these links: https://gist.github.com/johnko/fa763b97f0a4671a3c60 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/install-freebsd-usb-drive.60746/
Anonymous
@n0madcoder is there a lsblk or blkid equivalent to see all the devices freebsd sees?
Anonymous
Neruq
So I installed Freebsd on a USB, but for some reason the initramfs I suppose says that it can't find a certian device
How does freebsd work installed on USB and what are the characteristics of the USB to install the freebsd system on USB?
Anonymous
How does freebsd work installed on USB and what are the characteristics of the USB to install the freebsd system on USB?
It works fine with UFS, just remember to edit /etc/fstab manually after the installation, as the installer uses device names instead of lables or UUID
Anonymous
Well vi is certainly interesting, especially after coming from nano and vim
Anonymous
In the /etc/fstab file, what should I put?
Sorry, by my last comment I meant replace device names with labels or device UUID
Anonymous
I suggest labels
Anonymous
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html
Anonymous
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html
Here's a handy guide to create labels for different filesystem's
Neruq
Here's a handy guide to create labels for different filesystem's
What will the data rate be like installing FreeBSD on USB connected to 1.0 ports of the computer?
Anonymous
What will the data rate be like installing FreeBSD on USB connected to 1.0 ports of the computer?
USB3.0 will give you a smooth experience, as for 1.0 probably a bad one
Anonymous
The computer is an old of port 1.0 computer
Then your better off installing it on a hard drive
Neruq
Are you installing it on an old i386 machine?
No, It gets very hot with freebsd.
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No, It gets very hot with freebsd.
Have you tried powerdxx?
Neruq
Have you tried powerdxx?
The automatic installer is optimized by the system as much as possible, including powerdxx
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The automatic installer is optimized by the system as much as possible, including powerdxx
I missed something I guess 🤔 since I always have to configure and tailor powerdxx after fresh installs
Neruq
I missed something I guess 🤔 since I always have to configure and tailor powerdxx after fresh installs
If you read the conversation above about this laptop with freebsd it gets very hot from 50. C upwards without doing anything, while in linux it is around 31. C
neb
Well vi is certainly interesting, especially after coming from nano and vim
I use ed(1) - it is much "simpler" 🤔 (The standard UNIX editor).
neb
Using a Piece of Paper as a Display Terminal – Ed vs. Vim (Score: 101+ in 1 day) Link: https://readhacker.news/s/4wKt4 Comments: https://readhacker.news/c/4wKt4
Anonymous
Ok, so one question I have is this
Anonymous
I know freebsd is a complete OS, that being both kernel and userland
Anonymous
But how far does it go in terms of userland? Is it gnucoreutils level and init or even beyond that?
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But how far does it go in terms of userland? Is it gnucoreutils level and init or even beyond that?
I guess it has all of gnucoreutils offer plus clang compiler and other tools
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Wait freebsd project made LLVM?
They didn't make it but use it instead gcc
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Gnu stands for "gnu is not unix" and in the close to unix systems like FreeBSD, GNU tools are available but not shipped by default in userland
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One of the selling key points of FreeBSD is they offer an environment with a license that allows the user to modify, use, and ship a product made with FreeBSD or with parts of it without having to expose code changes, and the ability to sell the product. With GNU you can't
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https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/explaining-bsd/
neb
Is there a reason to use it over vi?
vi(1) is slow in comparison, makes much more "noise" (visually, plus it does things you don't ask for), ed's commands are single characters, scripting is cleaner, you can evolve a huge working memory with ed (since it's a line editor), it's more likely to run in a borked system - even when vi won't (refer the article I linked),it is the standard and a piece of history and knowing a bit of ed should be mandatory for all Unix enthusiasts. From the top if my head...
Anonymous
Is this how people actually used to edit files on terminal teletypes?
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Hello and welcome @AryaSucks2021
Anonymous
can we get openrc or s6 on freebsd With parallelization ?
Krond
Probably. Try installing it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
It takes 10 plus seconds to boot
Anonymous
Plus I have got used to in on artix
Anonymous
can we get openrc or s6 on freebsd With parallelization ?
Is parallelazation with openrc considered stable?
Fred
Why would you want openrc on freebsd?
We use Openrc on Ghostbsd
Anonymous
We use Openrc on Ghostbsd
Is parallelazation on by default?
Anonymous
I installed xorg but when I startx I get this error
Anonymous
termbin.com/ehym
Anonymous
Xorg.0.log
Neruq
Ghostbsd if you use openrc
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termbin.com/ehym
[ 316.293] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory How did you configure your gpu?
Anonymous
Igpu
Anonymous
Intel i3 6006u
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I got xf86-video-intel
That's a bit outdated I guess. Are you running 13? If so I suggest you to install libdrm drm-fbsd13.0-kmod, and then setup according to drm-kmod
Anonymous
Works thanks alot
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anytime (:
Neruq
Who here has tried nomadbsd?
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haenno
Who here has tried nomadbsd?
☝🏻 Worked great on Thinkpad x380 and a Desktop PC also
Neruq