K

Yes

K

Efi partiton is not encrypted

Anonymous

Yes

so it basiclly has the same partition layout as me, I have an unencrypted /boot and EFI partition, and the only reason I use LVM is that I have my / and swap parition on the luks encrypted partition. The reason you said to use ZFS is the performance gain?

D.M

@n0madcoder

K

so it basiclly has the same partition layout as me, I have an unencrypted /boot and EFI partition, and the only reason I use LVM is that I have my / and swap parition on the luks encrypted partition. The reason you said to use ZFS is the performance gain?

Yep, ZFS is made to take care of what LVM does. The more it knows about the underlying hardware, the better. Also about error correction if you run a raid and not a stripe

D.M

K

If I were to stack luks + lvm + file system, I would have used BTRFS. Luckily there’s no need to play lego with ZFS anymore since native encryption has been introduced

Anonymous

If I were to stack luks + lvm + file system, I would have used BTRFS. Luckily there’s no need to play lego with ZFS anymore since native encryption has been introduced

I assume your using the openzfs for the kernel module?

K

I assume your using the openzfs for the kernel module?

Does anything else exist? ZOL is now openZFS

Anonymous

Does anything else exist? ZOL is now openZFS

also why is it not in the kernel tree? its not just arch, it seemingly doesnt exist in any official kernel release

Anonymous

also why is it not in the kernel tree? its not just arch, it seemingly doesnt exist in any official kernel release

However, since ZFS is licensed under the Common Development and Distribution License, which is incompatible with the GNU General Public License, it cannot be included in the Linux kernel.

Anonymous

nevermind got my answer

K

License issues yes

Sylvain

Thanks for the replies guys. Until now I have played safe and kept to native filesystems. Btrfs and zfs too are interesting. Well I might go with zfs as it seems to be openly promoted by the official FreeBSD team and movement more ore less.

Sylvain

I'm not familiar with luks and lvl, are they both encryption tools/method available under FreeBSD ? Does ZFS imply some kind of default, fs-specific encryption ? I think I might go with ZFS for the FreeBSD install.

Krond

Well, no. ZFS is not faster then UFS actually. It also has a number of quirks and issues, but not even close comparing to BTRFS, don't use BTRFS, big vendors already ditched it.

Krond

The nice stuff about ZFS is that it provides you a huge amount of features that are easy to use and stable in long run. Compression, multiple device support, layered caching, snapshots - there's really a lot.

K

Btrfs isn’t available for FreeBSD, it’s inferior to ZFS anyways

Neruq

It's not only power consumption, but also the consumption of the laptop's resources, which is not the case with linux.

Anonymous

Krond

It's not only power consumption, but also the consumption of the laptop's resources, which is not the case with linux.

The key question was whether you installed correct video drivers. Those are not provided with OS and come with ports. Soft rendering is really resource hungry, and GPUs are a lot more efficient on, um, drawing things on the screen.

Neruq

The key question was whether you installed correct video drivers. Those are not provided with OS and come with ports. Soft rendering is really resource hungry, and GPUs are a lot more efficient on, um, drawing things on the screen.

Yes, the automatic installer does it right, giving options to choose between the most suitable and faulty, and leaves the system optimized for use

Anonymous

The key question was whether you installed correct video drivers. Those are not provided with OS and come with ports. Soft rendering is really resource hungry, and GPUs are a lot more efficient on, um, drawing things on the screen.

Wait, freebsd doesn't have video drivers of its own?

Krond

Well, world has leftovers I guess, You need to get actual DRM driver from port.

Krond

Sincerely, I hasn't been using installer in a decades. Might be wrong about it.

Neruq

I am not talking about distro, but about the freebsd system itself.

Neruq

If you mean distros to most derived from mother or father systems as it is Debian-Gentoo-Slackware in linux

Anonymous

I can't understand a single thing your saying ...

Anonymous

Well, world has leftovers I guess, You need to get actual DRM driver from port.

Have you used freebsd as desktop?

Krond

Have you used freebsd as desktop?

Yeah, for a long time.

Anonymous

Yeah, for a long time.

How is support for intel hd graphics on it? does it have tearing?

Anonymous

No, I mean you talk in gibberish

Krond

No, I never tried intel graphics.

Anonymous

No, I never tried intel graphics.

then what gpu do you use?

Krond

Radeon, mostly.

Anonymous

go to back to school for what?

Anonymous

Radeon, mostly.

I suppose it has good support?

Anonymous

no tearing, smooth?

Anonymous

it IS a distro, debian didn't create gnu coreutils, sysv-init( now replaced with systemd ), linux-utils, Xorg server, gcc and a whole bunch of other projects

Neruq

No, I never tried intel graphics.

Intel graphics are the most widely supported for freebsd

Neruq

it IS a distro, debian didn't create gnu coreutils, sysv-init( now replaced with systemd ), linux-utils, Xorg server, gcc and a whole bunch of other projects

The creator of gnu/linux is Stallman and Torvalds.

K

The creator of gnu/linux is Stallman and Torvalds.

Stallman created the GNU project The GNU project created the GNU utilities Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel. The two combined make GNU/Linux. Alternative projects exist such as Debian/kFreeBSD

K

Debian was not created by Stallman nor Torvalds

K

Ian Murdock United the GNU programs with the Linux kernel, creating Debian, a GNU/Linux distribution

Neruq

Ian Murdock United the GNU programs with the Linux kernel, creating Debian, a GNU/Linux distribution

The derivatives of the unix derivatives, the derivatives of bsd, and the of freebsd, ghostbsd, etc. bsd would be like a grandfather for normadbsd

D.M

To change the default shell, use chsh as usual, or it can be with chpass

Neruq

For example : # chpass

D.M

For example : # chpass

Yes. #chpass -s /bin/csh

Neruq

Yes. #chpass -s /bin/csh

Which is better of the shells, standard sh or csh?

D.M

Which is better of the shells, standard sh or csh?

Both have different functions and like everything else, each has its benefits and its disadvantages.

Anonymous

Which is better of the shells, standard sh or csh?

Depends on what you want to use it for. If you want interactive use, naturally csh would be better

Anonymous

To change the default shell, use chsh as usual, or it can be with chpass

Also, how does tcsh compare to bash?

Fred

Also, how does tcsh compare to bash?

I like fish shell that GhostBSD.org uses as default. You can change to use other shells, too.

Null

How to Submit a Patch to FreeBSD Join Drew Gurkowski and Ed Maste as they walk you through the various methods for submitting a patch to FreeBSD. FreeBSD yt channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/FreeBSDProject

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

D.M just in case you want to check how the system boots on my laptop. Screen resolution pops into 1920x1080 after kernel modules are loaded. Prior to that I guess specifing the resolution to the vt should work but I'm not sure

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

D.M

D.M just in case you want to check how the system boots on my laptop. Screen resolution pops into 1920x1080 after kernel modules are loaded. Prior to that I guess specifing the resolution to the vt should work but I'm not sure

Right, just that I would like. Make the font size smaller before logging in

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

Right, just that I would like. Make the font size smaller before logging in

That is achieved loading the kms module for your gpu at the /etc/rc.conf file

D.M

That is achieved loading the kms module for your gpu at the /etc/rc.conf file

👍👏👏

D.M

@n0madcoder kld_list="i915kms"

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

@n0madcoder kld_list="i915kms"

That's it for intel yeah

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

$ doas pkg install libdrm drm-fbsd13.0-kmod

D.M be sure to have these installed, otherwise you'll be thrown to panic mode iirc

D.M

I had it in /etc/rc.conf

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

I had it in /etc/rc.conf

Let me check

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

I had it in /etc/rc.conf

You are right, has to be there. My bad

D.M

You are right, has to be there. My bad

I have that, but it does not change the resolution

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

I have that, but it does not change the resolution

That's weird actually. You can put into a log file the installed pkgs you have, and attach them to the boot and rc.conf files and send them here if you want so I can take a look

D.M

That's weird actually. You can put into a log file the installed pkgs you have, and attach them to the boot and rc.conf files and send them here if you want so I can take a look

Later when I can because I'm at work