Anonymous

i'm using internet through wifi

Eliab/Andi

hey new to freebsd

Welcome

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

yeah but i wanna setup firewell and hosts

Firewall is setup using pf

Stéphane

Got to the point where I had to tune nmbufs -> end result on Unbound : - Debian with SMP affinity tuning : 300k qps - FreeBSD with boosted nmbufs : 900k qps

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Is the DVD burned or manufactured?

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Where is shipping information on the website?

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

How many days will it take to deliver? I NEED ANSWERS!

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

And why no custom USB? I'll have to buy external USB DVD reader for that 😭

Anonymous

Freebsd.org has the answers

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Freebsd.org has the answers

https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/misc.html Here is only a link. Doesn't give me answers.

Anonymous

It shows you up all the download methods for installing freebsd

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

I wanted to buy the DVD.

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

It shows you up all the download methods for installing freebsd

And I can't find any shipping information

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

👍

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

That's MATE, right?

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Looks nice. Old school. Ah the memories... 😢

neb

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countdown to 200 :D

neb

Not-actually Linux distro review: FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE – Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/not-actually-linux-distro-review-freebsd-12-1-release/

neb

Oh, the thousand paper cuts. Wish FreeBSD devs would use it as desktop - like the OpenBSDers do.

neb

How can I find out if https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ci_series/models/ci1.html i.e the Steinberg ci1 audio interface is compatible with FreeBSD. $SEARCH_ENGINE does not yield results. At least not in a letters I understand.

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Not-actually Linux distro review: FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE – Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/not-actually-linux-distro-review-freebsd-12-1-release/

Yeah Well... I still don't know whether I should install >FreeBSD >Manjaro Or >Ubuntu Kylin. I think I'll go with Manjaro to be honest. Shit just runs out of the box. But on the other side, I'm buying thinkpad with freebsd in mind so.... Yeah, tough.

./pascal.sh

Yeah Well... I still don't know whether I should install >FreeBSD >Manjaro Or >Ubuntu Kylin. I think I'll go with Manjaro to be honest. Shit just runs out of the box. But on the other side, I'm buying thinkpad with freebsd in mind so.... Yeah, tough.

I must say it's been a while since I last tried Manjaro But it was a total shitshow It was bloated and had very outdated packages. Also the compositor was broken I see no real deal in using Manjaro. Honestly just install plain arch linux. It's not that hard The base install is done in like 15 minutes.

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

I must say it's been a while since I last tried Manjaro But it was a total shitshow It was bloated and had very outdated packages. Also the compositor was broken I see no real deal in using Manjaro. Honestly just install plain arch linux. It's not that hard The base install is done in like 15 minutes.

I've been using arch. I tried. Been using it happily. But there is a lot of manual configuration and I had a lot to fix. With Manjaro, as I said, things just work.

./pascal.sh

I've been using arch. I tried. Been using it happily. But there is a lot of manual configuration and I had a lot to fix. With Manjaro, as I said, things just work.

But the idea behind arch is a minimal distro and to let the user the choice to install and customize exactly what he wants and to start with zero So what is the purpose of Manjaro? If you want an easy to install and use system just go with Debian or Fedora

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

Besides. I'm a simple user. I browse the net. Program a bit. Use LibreOffice. I'm not a 1337 hax00r like some to build custom kernels and stuff.

./pascal.sh

Besides. I'm a simple user. I browse the net. Program a bit. Use LibreOffice. I'm not a 1337 hax00r like some to build custom kernels and stuff.

Then arch in any form is probably the wrong choice for you

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

I've been using Arch for 2 or 3 years as my main system. I know what it gives to the user.

./pascal.sh

Arch is all about hacking into the system and customizing the hell out of it You start with zero and end up with a fully customized system to your own liking If you just want a simple to install system which just works out of the box there is Fedora, Debian, Mint and other distros like that

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

I have only tried Fedora in few VMs. I don't like Gnome. Tired is all the K's in KDE. Cinnamon was what I used with Arch. I'm now using Manjaro, with xfce4 and Manjaro theme and I like it. The stuff with slow download speeds in FreeBSD pkg I've already experienced. Changing servers and stuff, ain't for me. I'm getting Thinkpad X270 which works well with FreeBSD but honestly, I'm not so sure it will be a good experience. Systemd is getting more powerful as time goes. There are distros that TRY not to use it. Well, if I don't want to use systemd I can just install FreeBSD. I'm not against the existence of systemd, but I like the idea that things should do one thing and do it well.

Geld [0/4💉] 🇵🇸 تحيا فلسطين

So you see, I'm in the middle of all this. On the other hand I feel, like FreeBSD is DA SHIT FOR ME but on the other hand I like the hassle-free Manjaro experience. Not to mention that I DO like to game from time to time.

Anonymous

Around 2017, when Manjaro entered the Top 3 ranking of distrowatch, I did a bare-metal installation on a test machine. It looked VERY promising and I liked it not only for the looks. Then I put this machine into a corner for a couple of weeks.... Big mistake. When I fired it up next time for a routine update, the package manager got immediately broken. No chance to get it back to a prior state. Maybe things have changed a lot since then... My enthusiasm for rolling-release-distros cooled down a lot at that experience...

Anonymous

Btw, pretty much the same happened to me with OpenSuse. One cannot use those distros for a longterm computing playground. They are simply too unstable from a development point of view. I do not care, if Linux runs a few percentage points 'smoother' or 'faster' on bare metal. I need technology, which can stand ANYTHING happening to it throughout decades.

./pascal.sh

Btw, pretty much the same happened to me with OpenSuse. One cannot use those distros for a longterm computing playground. They are simply too unstable from a development point of view. I do not care, if Linux runs a few percentage points 'smoother' or 'faster' on bare metal. I need technology, which can stand ANYTHING happening to it throughout decades.

Try Debian stable One does not simply break Debian Stable

./pascal.sh

Anonymous

Try Debian stable One does not simply break Debian Stable

Thx for that suggestion. I went with Debian for a long time. Updates were never a problem. Dist-Upgrades by "simply pushing the button" broke 2 systems over a timespan of approx. 5 yrs. I finally gave up on Debian, when I learned, that even Canonical began to promote 'fresh installs' over 'dist-upgrades' as their preferred method.

Anonymous

Lone survivor was RHEL/CentOS for longterm development pathways. They introduced other annoyances/pitfalls, though...

Anonymous

Meanwhile, Linux Mint offers upgrade functionality that slightly points toward sth. more promising. Ease-of-use, paired with Timeshift. I already succeded in several dot-upgrades (in contrast to earlier Ubuntu, which stalled regularly in pre-Timeshift era). Nevertheless, stable upgrade paths over DECADES are the one and only performance measure, here.

./pascal.sh

Linux Mint Updates sucks 😂

./pascal.sh

They force you to backup with time shift

Anonymous

True. But this concept works, at least. Performance-wise, one ends up anywhere in between real backup/restore vs. zfs-snapshots. It is a good evolutionary intermediate state, before Canonical will have cleared up the question, if zfs-on-root goes with Ubuntu, or not.

neb

-RELEASE has been vetted and tested to be stable enough for an official release, -STABLE has been tested to make sure ABI's are stable, and -CURRENT is the cutting/bleeding edge. Users who wants the moat stable system use -RELEASE. Users who want to help test or need newer features use the others (and developers, of course). Debian has -stable, -testing and something else.

Himzz

Intrybto indtall kde5 on freebsd13 but their is no kde5 in freebsd 13 packages it shows

neb

Welcome, Mr. 200! 🎉

Freetos

👍👍

ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ

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Freetos

Here 😈

Eliab/Andi

Welcome, Mr. 200! 🎉

Welcome and happy party time xD

./pascal.sh

LOL

./pascal.sh

Actually I give that a big doubt 😂

Anonymous

Does somebody installed ssmtp and configure it for Gmail

Anonymous

?

Anonymous

I've been using arch. I tried. Been using it happily. But there is a lot of manual configuration and I had a lot to fix. With Manjaro, as I said, things just work.

Cept the installer every time I get nagged into my annual “oh look arch nearly installs on bog standard hardware” session

Anonymous

Debian is for all the boring fuckers like me who are all focused on using an OS vs customising(fixing broken essential things using a text editor)+reinstalling before things get cluttered up with my pointless files.

Anonymous

For the sensible people who just want an OS to entertain them on its own, I fully support arch

Anonymous

Does somebody employ telegram from bash script or nodeJs?