I know cases of instruments' software which need specifically XP to be run

It's what that patch does get

Windows XP. There are a lot of them still online or behind firewall. I mean, bare metal machines, not virtual.

I'm aware, but this doesn't change anything I said above

Also, it ends in 2023, not 2021

I know cases of instruments' software which need specifically XP to be run

XP is recent enough to get prone to hack

One of my friends is still using Windows XP on notebook, and that won't change 😏

same as I'm using Windows 7 here

I'm interested in ReactOS to be stable, to fix those scenarios

that's not even true as updates are sent through MS update

It's true, but I've read that the pc's with this patch for a problem (I don't remember at the time) have to download and install manually. I will read again the community posts

I'm interested in ReactOS to be stable, to fix those scenarios

Participate in development then 🙂 It's the best way to improve it

Participate in development then 🙂 It's the best way to improve it

I'm not so good at coding, but I can help by testing

I'm not so good at coding, but I can help by testing

Testing is good too. If you have any friends who are programmers, try to make them interested in the project.

same as I'm using Windows 7 here

Me too, I had a Windows 7 pc for 7 years, then the mobo died (two times). In my new pc I will do a dual boot

thks for reactos team

can i download reactos here

the latest version

https://reactos.org/

but sourceforge crash

but sourceforge crash

how is that? 🤔

ill try aigain now

it's ok now sorry

it's ok now sorry

mirror also available: https://download.reactos.org/reactos/ReactOS/0.4.13/

mirror also available: https://download.reactos.org/reactos/ReactOS/0.4.13/

thks for reactos team

ill try ton install reactos in my second laptop

solid team reactos merci in french

One of my friends is still using Windows XP on notebook, and that won't change 😏

that will need to change if he uses Internet There isn't a lot of options for web browsing

<Cernodile> XP is only dangerous if you don't know what you're doing

<Cernodile> Common sense applies to everything

<Cernodile> XP is only dangerous if you don't know what you're doing

Well, on the internet, it's getting quite dangerous Trust me, I've used XP with the POSReady patch until end of support on an old laptop And even when doing basic YouTube stuff, and email writing, I got a lot of cleaning to do (Malwarebytes, Avast, and all that stuff were always complaining when I installed them for a day, just to clean everything)

<Cernodile> Common sense applies to everything

Common sense isn't a universal thing sadly

Common sense isn't a universal thing sadly

It’s dangerous even with common sense. One xss-injection, malicious prefect or even image in some cases. That’s not entirely XPs fault (even though it’s missing a lot of security features) but rather a result of the end of support

i still use a couple of windows xp pcs. i don't feel so unsafe, if you just visit reliable sites and keep common sense and a good antivirus and firewall on, it's safe

It’s dangerous even with common sense. One xss-injection, malicious prefect or even image in some cases. That’s not entirely XPs fault (even though it’s missing a lot of security features) but rather a result of the end of support

Even though the end of emergency support ended in April 2019> A lot of stuff still hasn't been fixed sadly

btw, in a university lab where my brother works, they still use older windows versions, and even dos (if you have a 100k euros spectrofotometer, perfectly set up but with drivers only for windows 3.1 and a 5 euros 486 pc, if you burn the pc you don't change the spectrofotometer...)

<hbelusca> +1

btw, in a university lab where my brother works, they still use older windows versions, and even dos (if you have a 100k euros spectrofotometer, perfectly set up but with drivers only for windows 3.1 and a 5 euros 486 pc, if you burn the pc you don't change the spectrofotometer...)

Well, you can sometimes manage to get it working on newer hardware... I'm 100% sure that Win3.1 era hardware will get as expensive as a new PC

most likely it uses proprietary drivers or software

and it most likely won't work on newer hardware

most likely it uses proprietary drivers or software

When I say "newer" I'm talking Pentium class hardware on Win95

still the drivers might be locked to older OSes

Which may work kind of well

still the drivers might be locked to older OSes

Win95 and 3.1 is okay

btw, in a university lab where my brother works, they still use older windows versions, and even dos (if you have a 100k euros spectrofotometer, perfectly set up but with drivers only for windows 3.1 and a 5 euros 486 pc, if you burn the pc you don't change the spectrofotometer...)

Sometimes it's possible to virtualize that environment and connect the instrument via serial, parallel, USB or pci-pass-through. So, a common PC with VT extensions can be the host

Sometimes it's possible to virtualize that environment and connect the instrument via serial, parallel, USB or pci-pass-through. So, a common PC with VT extensions can be the host

No, it uses a proprietary isa card. So nothing newer than a k6 or p2 works

most likely it uses proprietary drivers or software

*this, with an isa acquisition card.

wat, ISA... 😖

wat, ISA... 😖

yes... in italy cnr, the national research institute, works in third world conditions. usually scientists are underpaid and, when they discover something, they don't benefit from this. if it's a good thing, politicians and their friends get the merits for this. if it's a bad thing (ie, geologists discovering a fault or a ravine, or biologists discovering pollution) they're ignored and if something goes wrong it's even their fault. in the end, everyone who can goes to another nation (i wish i could)

(i don't work in cnr, but my brother does. i just got out of university due to some family and personal problems, i was a natural science student, close to my degree. sometimes i go in my brother's lab. sorry for the ot)

Don't worry. It's always interesting to know what's happening in research in other countries

i hope your countries work better than mine. italy has great people destroyed by bad politicians/tycoons/vips.

Mine is similar to Italy, I fear 😥

Coraggio!

🤗🤗🤗

i hope your countries work better than mine. italy has great people destroyed by bad politicians/tycoons/vips.

Mine, Spain, similar too. Bad way.

<hbelusca> Sounds like France too.

In Spain there are s lot of people in the TIC area but also a lot of precariousness.

Free/OpenSource is a great thing but if people do not have enough income then can not spend personal time in free projects.

I'm from Spain, too

Region?

Aragón

Mañico

Me, Madrid

yeah 🤟🏻

Nice to meet you

It's a small world! Aragón also exist! 😉

There are opensource events in Aragón where to present ReactOS?

I don't think so 😕

Most IT events are about webapps development and so on

No one cares about operating systems. People assume they grow in trees

Commercial products. In Madrid in the computer technician association i was talking with some people and some times one of them give a meeting to explain ReactOS. But is far from where i live.

That would be a starting point

Some times they organize events and if someone have knowlegge about a theme they let a room for the event freely.

Most IT events are about webapps development and so on

>webapps that's fucking awful and disgusting, eugh

I know 🤷🏻‍♂️

webapps are a pretty shitty thing since devs now opt to choose electron instead of writing native stuff, i think the amount of people that wanna develop natively is decreasing rapidly

The all-mighty-SaaS-perspective is ruining IT

the whole idea of electron being cross-platform is good, but doesnt do jackshit when those same webapp devs cant port their stuff to different OSes, therefore defeating the whole concept of cross-platforming fuck me man, even java does it better and its terrible (in terms of performance)

Even Go does cross-compilation better

i can semi excuse electron apps if the vendor has a web version of the same program, but when i look at my RAM usage...