With the current update model that Windows 10 use, keeping RDP Wrapper up to date is masochism, so I abandoned this project.
Better work on ReactOS, one day we'll have Terminal Services here.
what a shame, really.
Eris
Mark
Does it need a patch for every update?
Stas'M
(in most cases offsets are different)
Stas'M
I also thought about making some autodetection by parsing ASM... but that would be overkill 😅
Mark
Let's discuss this tonight
Mark
There is a trick for that commonly used in game cheats
Stas'M
😮
Stas'M
Ok 🙂
Argh
✝️ ☺️🌞 HD Scania
Can you share some game cheats?
No, but instead to run Lakka, Batocera, LinuxConsole
Anonymous
https://thecustomizewindows.com/2011/10/kde-plasma-for-windows-7-detailed-guide-for-the-beautiful-gui/
That looks like if ROS took over meme
Leon
Hey.
Leon
I don't know if there are any ROS devs here but like.
Leon
How do you guys share code between wine and ROS?
Leon
Do you just copy paste or do you just use the common knowledge of how a reversee engineered function works?
Kirn
Kirn
If you wonder how that works, see this: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.en.html
Leon
Ah I see. I was wondering if you had a common git repo.
Kirn
Ah I see. I was wondering if you had a common git repo.
No, they're separate projects; I'm not a dev, it's just common info anyone can easily find via Google 🙂
Stas'M
https://i.imgur.com/1QYfkSb.gifv
Stas'M
^ @feel_the_dz3n will like it 🙂
Stas'M
(from discord, but the bot didn't transmitted the message)
Stas'M
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https://thecustomizewindows.com/2011/10/kde-plasma-for-windows-7-detailed-guide-for-the-beautiful-gui/
I tried it on kde4 times, it was always a PoC.... For KF5 it would need the whole porting work again, although the advent of Wayland might have made it more independent of X
Anonymous
I tried it on kde4 times, it was always a PoC.... For KF5 it would need the whole porting work again, although the advent of Wayland might have made it more independent of X
KDE/Plasma isn't working well with Wayland anyway
hacker12455
But there is work on that
Anonymous
But there is work on that
Yup, there is
The only three where I had chances were Sway, the i3 Wayland fork, Gnome Shell, and Enlightenment
Anonymous
Sad to see a lot of major distros forgetting Plasma, CentOS dropped it, and Kubuntu LTS/release will die eventually because of KDE Neon
Most DEs are GTK based nowadays, with LXQt being one of the rare exceptions (Openbox + Qt backends)
We need more Qt in our lives
hacker12455
We need more Wayland in our lives
Chungy
Very doubtful that Kubuntu will go away.
Chungy
RHEL/CentOS dropping KDE makes sense. The enterprise world generally doesn't care about it, nor does KDE have strong enterprise features (GNOME has all the accessibility and lock-down and remote admin stuff like what Windows has)
Anonymous
RHEL/CentOS dropping KDE makes sense. The enterprise world generally doesn't care about it, nor does KDE have strong enterprise features (GNOME has all the accessibility and lock-down and remote admin stuff like what Windows has)
Well, I agree for KDE, however, the problem is that GNOME consumes too much memory, it's not even funny to watch it eat as much RAM as
Anonymous
Chungy
"too much memory" in what sense? are you running on a 256MB RAM system?
Chungy
If we are still talking about enterprise use, any real workstation made in the past 10 (or more) years will work fine.
Chungy
if you are talking about 20 year old PCs, then sure, GNOME will be a bear on it. So will KDE.
Chungy
KDE has generally been known to be more memory-demanding too, but I'll admit I haven't checked that in the past 2~3 years.
Anonymous
If we are still talking about enterprise use, any real workstation made in the past 10 (or more) years will work fine.
No.
GNOME consuming about a gig of RAM by itself, regardless of what is going on
Anonymous
KDE has generally been known to be more memory-demanding too, but I'll admit I haven't checked that in the past 2~3 years.
Well, yeah, I agree
However, nowadays it's the opposite
I love everything that fits me really well
Chungy
It doesn't even use half of that, and that's no problem on real-world workstations that are likely to have 4GB at the bare minimum
Anonymous
GNOME can't be stripped down
A full KDE experience (will all KDE branded apps and all the useless shit) is still less RAM than a bare minimal GNOME)
Chungy
"can't be"? Really? It's very easy to have a minimal GNOME. Or a full-fledged one. If that's not stripping down, I don't know what is.
Anonymous
It doesn't even use half of that, and that's no problem on real-world workstations that are likely to have 4GB at the bare minimum
Well, even Cinnamon (which uses GTK, and a lot of GNOME backends)
I caught it using about 500-600MB of RAM
Chungy
GTK doesn't take up any significant memory, irrelevant to the discussion
Chungy
how old of a version, anyway? Early 3.x versions of Shell had some nasty memory leaks (thanks to the JS GC not working well). It's been years since it's been prone to ballooning to that size.
Anonymous
how old of a version, anyway? Early 3.x versions of Shell had some nasty memory leaks (thanks to the JS GC not working well). It's been years since it's been prone to ballooning to that size.
I'm talking even on Arch based distros
Listen, someone using his desktop for important stuff like video editing, or CAD...
He needs the absolute most RAM for his program
This guy will not care about a backend he doesn't use, he only cares about his program, that he uses the most
GNOME, by itself, is a meme for that
Anonymous
For example, you need to either know the correct gsettings hook or install gnome-tweak to maximize and put in taskbar windows
Anonymous
Same for desktop icons
Anonymous
I'm not a fanboy of any WM/DE
Chungy
you're conflating different things again
Chungy
memory issues: Pretty much gone. my shell is sitting at 250MB after a week of uptime, and I have 32GB of RAM so I wouldn't even care that much even if it goes to 1G
Chungy
extensions: Ok... yeah they exist. Because GNOME isn't designed to have icons or a taskbar.
Anonymous
Chungy
step 1: turn on computer, log in (I use GNOME).
step 2: wait a week
Anonymous
extensions: Ok... yeah they exist. Because GNOME isn't designed to have icons or a taskbar.
It did have desktop icons in Gnome 3, someone just removed the ability
Chungy
You're confusing things, please don't do that.
Chungy
Desktop icons were very explicitly gone in 3.0. Nautilus still had some capability in fallback mode, but that code itself broke and it was finally removed a few years ago. GNOME isn't designed for them. It's as simple as that.
Anonymous
step 1: turn on computer, log in (I use GNOME).
step 2: wait a week
Waiting a week, with stuff going on ?
Like actually using the computer to start apps, do your thing, then close them, and wait again ?
Chungy
after using my computer normally.
Anonymous
Desktop icons were very explicitly gone in 3.0. Nautilus still had some capability in fallback mode, but that code itself broke and it was finally removed a few years ago. GNOME isn't designed for them. It's as simple as that.
The problem is that in /home, the Desktop folder still exists, so it's weird
And it's not even locked down
Chungy
so?
Anonymous
After starting up a CentOS 8 yesterday, so that's Gnome 3.28 or something
It consumes 1. something gigs of RAM
Chungy
you can just go there?
the desktop folder is still defined in XDG Directory Specifications. It's still used by other DEs and by some application installers. It's just that GNOME isn't designed to display them on the bare desktop (and there's extensions to restore that capability if you really want it)
Anonymous
you can just go there?
the desktop folder is still defined in XDG Directory Specifications. It's still used by other DEs and by some application installers. It's just that GNOME isn't designed to display them on the bare desktop (and there's extensions to restore that capability if you really want it)
I know...
But hey, an extension ?
GNOME tweak tool ?
An app made by GNOME to give options every other DE has by itself ?
Anonymous
Weird though
Chungy
Yes, extensions are made to change the shell to do things that it isn't designed to do. Just like web extensions in browsers.
Chungy
nothing wrong with tweak tool either. It has a few of the more common settings to change that would otherwise clutter or be useless in the main settings app. You can also use dconf-editor too. It's just like using regedit on Windows to change things that aren't made toggleable in the UI.
Anonymous
Yes, extensions are made to change the shell to do things that it isn't designed to do. Just like web extensions in browsers.
Can't they just give a bash script ?
Because that's mostly what they do
Also, just remember that the website to install extensions (because GNOME Software never works properly for me)
Shows a lot of obsolete extensions that works only with early versions of Gnome Shell
Chungy
"bash script" to do what? That's an extremely vague question.
Anonymous
"bash script" to do what? That's an extremely vague question.
To do what extensions do.
For example, show desktop icons
Or put a maximize and reduce button on title bars
Anonymous
Rendering GNOME tweak mostly slimmer
Chungy
desktop icons is literally a feature that doesn't exist, so no, you can't just tweak a setting for it.
Chungy
maximize/minimize buttons, sure, they could, just write a gsettings line. But why? The Tweak Tool serves that capacity perfectly well.
Anonymous
desktop icons is literally a feature that doesn't exist, so no, you can't just tweak a setting for it.
Then how a kilobytes-sized extension do this ?
That's where I'm scratching my head