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[Mysoft] heh
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[Mysoft] drdos GUI looks like a TUI
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[Mysoft] with custom VGA font
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[Mysoft] :P
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[hyoenmadan] long time ago i was fooled to think these tools were written with the GSX GEM graphics library (yes, GEM and TOS/GEM is also a gui)
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[hyoenmadan] but nope
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DR-DOS setup thing just cloned all Win 3.1 GUI features
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[hyoenmadan] DRDOS "GUI" tools use a novell TUI library and font hacks
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[encoded] helloooooo
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[encoded] can reactos plz create a html/js UI?
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[hbelusca] encoded: like Windows Whistler first betas?
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[Mysoft] ah so i was right
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[Mysoft] :)
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[hyoenmadan] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Screen_shot_of_an_edit_session_in_Xerox_Ventura_Publisher%2C_ca._1990.jpg >>> true GSX GUI application
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[Mysoft] except "font hacks" is not the wrong term
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[Mysoft] custom fonts
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[Mysoft] not hacks :)
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[Mysoft] i made an entire GB emulator with that
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[hyoenmadan] it came directly from the graphics library used in the Xerox Alto
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[Mysoft] AND a VGA hack to get 4 colors instead of 2 :P
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: what you mean a long time ago. You still find new stuff around freedos written in GEM. As with all things you wonder how this stuff is not 100 percent dead yet.
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[hyoenmadan] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Screen_shot_of_an_edit_session_in_Xerox_Ventura_Publisher%2C_ca._1990.jpg >>> true GSX GUI application
true GSX GUI application « OVERKILL >:)
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[hbelusca] oiaohm: because it looks nice, that's it.
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[hyoenmadan] but adapted to DOS and 68k Atari TOS environments
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[hbelusca] Like TurboVision & al.
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[hbelusca] That's exactly what I like in the TUIs and make the charm of it.
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[hyoenmadan] http://www.muzines.co.uk/images_mag/scans/mt/mt_89_08/l/mt_89_08-63.jpg >>> GSX CUbase running under Atari TOS
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[oiaohm] hbelusca: ncurses sometimes make you wish you were not doing a TUI.
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[hyoenmadan] in TOS, it has a more Macintosh look and feel
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[hyoenmadan] i guess the guys of Roland and Akai still use GSX for their embedded synthetizer and sequencer apps
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[hyoenmadan] so them look like macintosh-ish
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[hyoenmadan] but them aren't
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[hyoenmadan] <oiaohm>: xD
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[oiaohm] https://github.com/wmcbrine/PDCurses << this one contains a what the. Fairly much everything bar apple stuff.
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[hyoenmadan] yeh... DJGPP offered a custom build tailored to their toolchain environment
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[hyoenmadan] looooong time ago
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[hyoenmadan] hmmm... i know isn't easy to write apps in curses, but when done in the right way, it produces very good and professional interfaces
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[hyoenmadan] which as plus can be used via Telnet/SSH
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: there is the wrong as well. There are a few video play back programs that support asci out with a TUI. Has to be in the insane camp.
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[hyoenmadan] hehe yeah... how was called the program?... cubic player or something like that
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[hyoenmadan] now, would be nice to have UEFI ports of some of these legendary apps
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca I can remember the library.
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: I cannot remember the program.
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: yes it would be very warped to port libcaca to efi
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[hyoenmadan] hahah... CaCa... even the homepage header logo xD
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[hbelusca] yeah
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[hbelusca] caca-o
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Cacodemons
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[hyoenmadan] actually, if the font is tiny, or you're using an high res mode, you can see something
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[hbelusca] we should definitively add support for ansi codes in our terminal.
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: logo and license and be problems in polite locations.
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[hyoenmadan] <hbelusca>: Win10-like term support ;-)
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[oiaohm] libcaca already support windows own terminals.
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[oiaohm] consoles.
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[hbelusca] yes, around regular win32 console api calls :)
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[hyoenmadan] http://www.wtfpl.net/wtfpl-initiative-supports-fsfs-campaign-against-secureboot/ >>> that's a bit contradictive
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[hyoenmadan] "It has been a commonly accepted fact that people should be allowed to do what the fuck they want to with their computers, including, but not limited to, installing whatever fucking operating system they want."
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[oiaohm] The reason for secure boot for secuirty is valid as long as the owner of the machine I can control it.
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[Mysoft] so
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[hyoenmadan] problem is, manufacturers are people too
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[Mysoft] because they think freedom should be respected
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[hyoenmadan] and is their hardware
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[Mysoft] he will help countering freedom on computer bioses?
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[Mysoft] P
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[Mysoft] *they
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ever since this bot was added this chat is spammy af
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[hyoenmadan] so WTFPL allows them to do whatever they want with it
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[hyoenmadan] and you're free to accept the conditions, or do WTFP and buy elsewhere
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[Mysoft] @mynameaborat i think it's about the same
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[Mysoft] this channel has some activity periods
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[Mysoft] some hiatus periods
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[hyoenmadan] ofc, from the viewpoint of this license
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[Mysoft] but for sure more new people means more being talked about
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[Mysoft] even if repeatedly...
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[Mysoft] at least it's not people asking questions about 1,1react
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: you have 4 major groups. Person who owns the hardware, Person who uses the hardware, Person who makes the hardware and Person who wants to break into someone else hardware.
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[oiaohm] hyoenmadan: you have 4 major groups. Person who owns the hardware, Person who uses the hardware, Person who makes the hardware and Person who wants to break into someone else hardware.
when I reply directly to this message how does it show
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[hbelusca] Mysoft: you censored "react"?