Anonymous
No
Anonymous
No
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
No
Hell ues
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Yes
Stephanos
its a great talk and gregory is such an awesome systems-architect... met her just a few weeks ago.
Anonymous
Oleksandr
U talking about what? What is "learning" in ur opinion? I can write full c-style code in C++.
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
C++ is described as a over complex programming language
Oleksandr
Or u suggests to learn only 30% of C++?)
Anonymous
C++ is described as a over complex programming language
So what? No one stops you to write good code
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
A good hint that C is a subset of C++
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Oleksandr
And this is a bad choise
We talking about language, not about best practise
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Let it be
Stephanos
c is not a strict subset of c++
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
So what?
Which means...
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
But
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
C++ has a very complex rules
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Metaprogramming OOP . .
Anonymous
We talking about language, not about best practise
A newbie must start learning best practices from the beginning And doesn't have to know that it is a best practice
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Every one of them is considered a whole Programming language by itself
Anonymous
Oleksandr
U suggest novice to learn OOP language first?)
Oleksandr
Very good(no)
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
U suggest novice to learn OOP language first?)
Well My first language was C++ xD
Stephanos
c++ isnt an OOP lang
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
c++ isnt an OOP lang
Yes, it's more than that
Oleksandr
Lang WITH oop
Stephanos
what the hell are you guys talking here: c is not a subset of c++ c++ is not an OOP lang
Stephanos
@apavlyuc better
Stephanos
but you are not forced to use it
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
this
It's true
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Well
Stephanos
its not
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
At least not 100%
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Maybe 90% xD
Anonymous
Not every C code is a correct C++ code
Oleksandr
And one more time, u talk NOT ABOUT C++, just about 30% of it)))) "Not use c-style" "U arw not to force use OOP"
Stephanos
No tentative definitions in C++ int[] and int[N] not compatible (no compatible types in C++) No K&R function definition style Nested struct has class-scope in C++ No default int No special handling of declaration specifiers in array dimensions of parameters No variable length arrays No flexible array member No restrict qualifier for helping aliasing analysis
Till
C++ is language of Gods
Oleksandr
And where are u see "the learning" then?
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
C++ is language of Gods
Wow, I'm flattered
Anonymous
Please
English, Japanese, French, German, Chinese... and math, algorithm... who is important? language is just a tool, algorithm is the soul,sleep😂😂😂
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
#ot
Anonymous
You have to reconsider your point of view on teaching/learning C++
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
What?!
Oleksandr
Anonymous
C++ is just to large for learning it first
If you give it the right way, it is easier
Sandy #КИБЕРИНЖЕКТОРЫ
Oleksandr
how many "if"
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
A lot of programmers took about 6+ years to learn C++
Oleksandr
C has no any "if", u just sit and learn
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Python ?
Hmmm I dunno
Anonymous
A lot of programmers took about 6+ years to learn C++
a newbie does not need to know the whole c++
Anonymous
Lol
Stephanos
i dont think that anybode knows the whole c++
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Stephanos
nope
Stephanos
he doesnt
Oleksandr
Bjarne lol
😂nope
MᏫᎻᎯᎷᎷᎬᎠ
Lol