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Talula

I counter everything he said by giving actual proof.

Ludovic 'Archivist'

I counter everything he said by giving actual proof.

So do I

Talula

So do I

You just talked and didn't give any proof.

Talula

claiming is not proof of anything.

Ludovic 'Archivist'

As far I know I showed you an actual functional monad

Parra

if you say C++ is OO then you need to learn C++ in deep

Parra

C++ is multiparadigm

Ludovic 'Archivist'

You just talked and didn't give any proof.

std::optional and std::variant and std::visit

Talula

if you say C++ is OO then you need to learn C++ in deep

Use Fortan...

Ludovic 'Archivist'

M O N A D S

Parra

check boost

Parra

boost hana for example

Parra

and then check if you see any OO there

Talula

std::optional and std::variant and std::visit

Do not prove anything at all... what it has to do with Pattern matching... I hope you know what it is.

Parra

and I think boost isn't wrong because c++ std usually adopts what they do

Parra

all containers use generics a lot for example

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Do not prove anything at all... what it has to do with Pattern matching... I hope you know what it is.

Girl, I do not write only C++. Want a simple proof? C++ has std::function, aka a first class type to represent a function which is the only true requirement to be a functional programming language

Parra

if you use class it doesn't mean you are doing OO exclusively

Ludovic 'Archivist'

It has support for dependent types as part of the template metaprogramming language

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Saying it doesn't have these features is living in 1998

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Girl, I do not write only C++. Want a simple proof? C++ has std::function, aka a first class type to represent a function which is the only true requirement to be a functional programming language

And in case you live in a place without the nice heat of the standard library, implementation of std::function is near trivial

BinaryByter

Ludovic, you are wasting your time debating with stupid strangers. Lets code the clinl website instead

Parra

haha

Talula

Ludovic, you are wasting your time debating with stupid strangers. Lets code the clinl website instead

Could you please be bit respectful?

BinaryByter

Could you please be bit respectful?

okay, mrs "c++ is OOP only"

Parra

I'm going to stop

^

BinaryByter

^

you didn't stop though :(

Parra

😅

Talula

okay, mrs "c++ is OOP only"

You really are a very rude person...

BinaryByter

You really are a very rude person...

you have had about half a year to observe me

BinaryByter

:D

BinaryByter

(yes, I am 😉)

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Do not prove anything at all... what it has to do with Pattern matching... I hope you know what it is.

Also, if you want to write pure functional code, C++ offers you 3 keywords which are const constexpr mutable to do just that

Talula

Also, if you want to write pure functional code, C++ offers you 3 keywords which are const constexpr mutable to do just that

I had same argument with people who do write purely funcational code... maybe you should talk to them.

Parra

even Stroustrup doesn't recommend pure OO

BinaryByter

even Stroustrup doesn't recommend pure OO

good boy ❤️

Talula

even Stroustrup doesn't recommend pure OO

You know you should really stop.

Ludovic 'Archivist'

I had same argument with people who do write purely funcational code... maybe you should talk to them.

So did I the conclusion was: yes C++ is functional but most people use the non functional bits of it making most library non functional

Ludovic 'Archivist'

To which my answer was "Libraries? What's that? Can you eat it?"

Talula

So did I the conclusion was: yes C++ is functional but most people use the non functional bits of it making most library non functional

Frankly speaking I lost to them... I was kicked in the garbage can they proved to me that it's not and they gave me same things I gave you...

Talula

To which my answer was "Libraries? What's that? Can you eat it?"

What has libraries got to do with Functional programming?

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Frankly speaking I lost to them... I was kicked in the garbage can they proved to me that it's not and they gave me same things I gave you...

Haskell developers are like J******h's witnesses

Talula

Haskell developers are like J******h's witnesses

Yep they were Haskell Developers.

Ludovic 'Archivist'

What has libraries got to do with Functional programming?

They said you cannot write functional code in C++ and their last argument to me showing them currying and such as well as template based dependent types was "Yeah but you can't use that with libraries because very few people don't do OOP"

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Also you used that argument on the topic of GC

Talula

They told me something that C++ does not stop you from making mistakes that are against the rules of functional programming...

Ludovic 'Archivist'

They told me something that C++ does not stop you from making mistakes that are against the rules of functional programming...

It does if you specify you want to do so

Ludovic 'Archivist'

For example by using const and dependent types

Ludovic 'Archivist'

If you don't, yes, you are getting out of safety, the same happens when you link a C library in a Haskell app

Ludovic 'Archivist'