Hi all - my IRC Server broke, so I'm going to have to join you here

why firefox is better than chrome or chromium ?

This debate will took a decade.. haha, naah.. You have lot choice, so decide youselt and why limit yourself if you can have used both? Btw, I use Vivaldi

what is webkit ?

the browser engine of Chromium/Chrome

This debate will took a decade.. haha, naah.. You have lot choice, so decide youselt and why limit yourself if you can have used both? Btw, I use Vivaldi

Vivaldi is going Open Source I think, right?

Firefox has npapi, which is the only reason I still have firefox installed

the browser engine of Chromium/Chrome

hmm..

Vivaldi is going Open Source I think, right?

Proprietary freeware with open-source components

Firefox has npapi, which is the only reason I still have firefox installed

what is npapi? xD

I was wondering the same @DiegoSouza22

Proprietary freeware with open-source components

Yeah... It looks veeery smexy though

Its the plugin system that firefox uses, and that chrome used, until it switched over to ppapi, and stoped people from using plugins that use npapi

someone disagrees with the chrome / chromium is faster and complete?

hmm..

Thats why chrome can't support java anymore unless they use the old npapi plugin system

the browser engine of Chromium/Chrome

Not any more.

Not any more.

What is it now?

What is it now?

Blink. Google forked Webkit like two years ago.

I confuse them

I thought it was Blink and now it's Webkit

seems to be the opposite

safari, chrome, chromium, opera they all use webkit

or chrome not anymore apparently

Only Safari and Epiphany are using Webkit. Everyone else Blink.

(if you say Chromium is, yeah, but it kind of is a test bed for Chrome)

Please, avoid using "test bed" on a fedora chat room.

hahaha

Flame war starting huh

I didn't use test bed and Fedora in the same sentence ;)

im stuck in the past

I didn't use test bed and Fedora in the same sentence ;)

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The struggle is real

I want fedora astronomy (school) and robotics('work') and try kde

And? How is it going, @TiberiusBudini? I rather like the astronomy thing.

Right now I'm downloading them all(along with musician) while listening to Pokémon theme song(gonna catch em all)

I'll make my hdd suffer to death

I'll make my hdd suffer to death

Or you can directly play your song using a floppy drive and a midi converter

Or you can directly play your song using a floppy drive and a midi converter

Shhhhh :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk

On a laptop? Yeah right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk

Thaat yt channel is nice

Hmmm

Problem?

No sir

Fun

Hi there, I'm having a problem installing F24 in an ASUS F555L for a friend. Seems that when I press the space bar the text font size increases :O instead of printing space. Also fn keys don't work

is this on Gnome?

Yup

weird, my first guess would be that a button is stuck on or something, blocking FN and reacting with space to produce an accessibility shortcut

can you get too settings > keyboard > shortcuts > universal access?

and see if the "increase text size" shortcut is active or disabled

Maybe it has something to do with it, but the media check failed at 4.8% saying "[FAILED] Failed to start Media check ok /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-WS-Live-24-1-2"

maybe related, but doubtful if its installed okay. If there were something wrong with the image it should have failed to install or flat out died on its arse when you tried to boot up afterwards.

I still didn't install it, it happens during the installation process

check to see if that keyboard shortcut is disabled, failing that open gedit or something and press some buttons, test the keyboard

oh so its anaconda that this zoom thing is happening in?

the installer

or is it happening in the live version of fedora

The zoom is in the live version, and it happens in all the interface. I restarted the pen drive and seems fine now

ERROR: S client not available

huzzah \o/

Hahaha yup great!! He is a new Fedora user BTW! He has seen me use F23 last months and he liked it too much xD

is RPMFusion caught up for 24 yet :P?

only the most used packages, according to dnf repoquery (mplayer, vlc, gstreamer bad/ugly etc. etc. etc., but no VirtualBox and no nvidia yet)

Is Boxes a good enough VM

or should I go with either KVM or VBox?

Is Boxes a good enough VM

Boxes is terrible, in my experience

depends what you want out of it I guess, quick and simple boxes is good at

if you want to do things like patch through usb ports and such then you're better off with vbox

It's terribly slow for me

I've never really used boxes properly myself too be honest ?. Tried it a couple of times, seemed basic.

vbox was only slow for me on Intel processors, for some reason, even with VT-d/VT-x, but not on AMD hardware

or should I go with either KVM or VBox?

Kvm, definitely.

Boxes is terrible, in my experience

Use virt-manager then

if you want to do things like patch through usb ports and such then you're better off with vbox

actually not as Kvm handles that much better, faster and can not only isolate usb devices from the host but also pci

It's terribly slow for me

Windows guest? http://www.spice-space.org/download.html >Windows guest tools Linux? make sure the client has whatever is needed for spice installed

Use vi!!

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Well, Boxes is actually a frontend for qemu/kvm. I've used it with qemu for almost a year, and while I'd like it to have more features, it works pretty well. I've had multiple VMs at the same time working interacting with each other perfectly.

It's very basic, but it does the basic stuff well

Boxes is terrible, in my experience

For testing live iso images is good enough.

or should I go with either KVM or VBox?

KVM is for Rock Stars!

You do know this is a fedora chat right...... I'm supprised no one has shouted yet

Using an wireless apple keyboard on fedora without any trouble, great for summer days.

*a

Coding from the couch?

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Right!! more like from the poor ?