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Michał
16.07.2017
20:22:40
they spy on users for amazon and the great richard stallman explain it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfa0H30L4 What's not wrong with Unity ? i mean they pretend to be user friendly but simply they are not, i always had my pc freezing on unity for some reasons, the best proof is that ubuntu founders ditched unity I don't hate on arch for example, i hate only ubunut for those reasons
Unity being discontinued is not a proof of it being not user friendly, and while I really respect RMS, I think saying "they spy for Amazon" is simply spreading FUD

 
they had this Amazon search thingy which was a bad idea, but after it was criticized it was removed

 
Eduard
16.07.2017
20:46:03
they had this Amazon search thingy which was a bad idea, but after it was criticized it was removed
Don't fall in the trap remember: "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down their level and then they beat you with experience"

 
Fernando
16.07.2017
21:07:41
I don't think ubuntu sucks at all

Google
 
Fernando
16.07.2017
21:07:49
I prefer fedora though

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
21:33:42
Is F26 completely stable as a daily driver?
Of course it is!

 
Only problems i've seen is with -as always- nvidia cards but that is on nvidia XD
And it depends on the model. Mine works even better now.

 
Agus
16.07.2017
21:36:02
Hey.

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
21:36:15
When did it spy? What's wrong with Unity? Is this hatred necessary?
Ubuntu? They had enabled by default those commercial searches in the dash.

 
Agus
16.07.2017
21:36:16
I have a Laptop with a WiFi switch key.

 
Is there a way to enable it on boot?

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
21:37:02
What do you mean with "enable" it? Wifi will be enabled/disabled depending if the switch is on or off.

 
Tobias?
16.07.2017
21:37:08
And it depends on the model. Mine works even better now.
Of course, but i can reliably crash mine when moving a window off-screen between an intel rendered screen and an nvidia rendered screen XD

 
Agus
16.07.2017
21:37:26
What do you mean with "enable" it? Wifi will be enabled/disabled depending if the switch is on or off.
So, there is no way of automatically enabling WiFi on boot without touching the switch key.

 
Right?

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
21:37:56
So, there is no way of automatically enabling WiFi on boot without touching the switch key.
Usually wifi will be enabled by default unless switch the key to off.

 
BTW, what model is?

Google
 
Kohane
16.07.2017
21:38:23
I have one of those keys in mine. Works just fine.

 
Agus
16.07.2017
21:42:02
BTW, what model is?
PHILCO PHN14D1.

 
I have to touch the key each time I boot it up.

 
So I was wondering if it was the software's fault.

 
ØиLy™
16.07.2017
21:43:38
Why not?

 
Tobias?
16.07.2017
21:43:53
Its as if you wanted to hide it.

 
Justin
16.07.2017
21:44:31
<div>OnLy Please don't post links to other group chats unless you ask an admin first. Be sure to read the pinned message at the top, please.

 
ØиLy™
16.07.2017
21:45:01
Okey, I'm sorry

 
Agus
16.07.2017
21:58:55
So I was wondering if it was the software's fault.
@Kohane Any ideas?

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
22:01:10
PHILCO PHN14D1.
Never heard of that laptop....

 
So I was wondering if it was the software's fault.
Weird. My laptop has always the switch on and the system boots with wifi enabled.

 
Agus
16.07.2017
22:06:09
Never heard of that laptop....
Me either, someone gave it to me because Windows 7 worked incredibly slow.

 
So I put Fedora with XFCE on it.

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
22:10:47
Me either, someone gave it to me because Windows 7 worked incredibly slow.
Hah! A friend of mine lent me a netbook for the very same reason.

 
@Kohane Any ideas?
Seems to me that your boot include an option to start with wifi disabled for some reason. Or hardware is not working properly. Or the system doesn't understand hardware signals properly.

 
Agus
16.07.2017
22:13:03
Okay...

 
Kohane
16.07.2017
22:14:07
It happens to me with Bluetooth. Even if it's disabled I have to switch on and off because the system misunderstands the signal from hardware.

 
I normally have it disabled, I don't use it. But the system boots with it enabled.

 
PH Sousa
16.07.2017
23:50:45
https://youtu.be/z5Wfxfk3dF8

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
01:13:55
https://youtu.be/z5Wfxfk3dF8
English, please.

Google
 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
01:39:36
Welcome aboard, @rlynx_rlynx and @LenCole. :)

 
Len
17.07.2017
01:40:09
@gwindor thanks .. just installed the KDE spin on my laptop to try out .. liking it so far

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
01:40:35
\o/

 
タツヤ
17.07.2017
01:56:08
thanks @gwindor ?

 
Swift110
17.07.2017
01:59:08
Hey guys

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
03:04:28
@surbakti, welcome to chat!

 
Tommy
17.07.2017
03:04:59
thanks

 
酒
17.07.2017
05:59:36
any one fresh installed the Fedora 26?

 
(■_■¬)
17.07.2017
05:59:49
any one fresh installed the Fedora 26?
Me right know.

 
酒
17.07.2017
06:00:11
/me crash after fresh install

 
(■_■¬)
17.07.2017
06:00:19
This machine was upgraded from F24 to F25, it was time for a fresh install.

 
/me crash after fresh install
Do you have Nvidia card?

 
酒
17.07.2017
06:00:50
Do you have Nvidia card?
Yup

 
(■_■¬)
17.07.2017
06:01:00
Yup
No surprises.

 
酒
17.07.2017
06:03:01
How to check if the graphics card itself broken or just nouveau' fault?

 
(■_■¬)
17.07.2017
06:04:19
How to check if the graphics card itself broken or just nouveau' fault?
I'm not sure. I don't have Nvidia hardware so no experience with it.

 
酒
17.07.2017
06:05:06
Well……gnome in xorg works.......god damn wayland

 
Kohane
17.07.2017
06:05:51
Well……gnome in xorg works.......god damn wayland
Oh, that happens often. Wayland is still in development, that's why Gnome is the only desktop using it.

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

 
(■_■¬)
17.07.2017
06:05:55
Well……gnome in xorg works.......god damn wayland
GNOME it is then.

Google
 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:18:25
The sad point is that not all projects will ever use Wayland

 
Interesting thing: unlike ddg says, it actually tracks your queries for advertisement, at least while searching in ru-net (uses Yandex in that case). I spent almost an hour to try to prove that I'm mistaken, but unfortunately, it does track you in runet. So, is there such strong believe in duckduckgo.com?

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:26:04
Interesting thing: unlike ddg says, it actually tracks your queries for advertisement, at least while searching in ru-net (uses Yandex in that case). I spent almost an hour to try to prove that I'm mistaken, but unfortunately, it does track you in runet. So, is there such strong believe in duckduckgo.com?
Well, it might track stuff, but it makes that data anonymous.

 
It looks like duckduckgo searches the Yandex, not you.

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:26:31
Yup, so thought I, but the point is: ddg lies.

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:26:52
Yup, so thought I, but the point is: ddg lies.
They don't. Your data isn't tracked. Anonymous statistics is what gathered.

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:27:23
They are saying that they don't track even for advertising.

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:27:34
And they don't. Yandex does. :P

 
Though, it doesn't give Yandex data for targeted ads.

 
Swift110
17.07.2017
06:27:59
Nice

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:28:18
DDS acts like a proxy in that way.

 
Search engine agregator.

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:28:34
:D But it determines, that it's me somehow, when I'm searching stuff. It doesn't work for google, 'cause it searches in an encrypted.google.com.

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:28:35
Anonymous proxy for Yandex.

 
:D But it determines, that it's me somehow, when I'm searching stuff. It doesn't work for google, 'cause it searches in an encrypted.google.com.
How though?

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:29:26
Ikd, but why and how it targets ads with 85-90% accuracity according to my last searching queries? Not "just" last, but after some little time it actually works.

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:29:41
Dunno, I don't see that. :)

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:30:44
If you have some time, you try to (un)prove my words :) And i lied, I spent more, than an hour making queries and checking ads out.

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:30:51
Though, I have an adblock, both plugin and systemwise.

 
So, I don't really see ads.

Google
 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:31:13
The message is about honesty (:

 
Gwindor
17.07.2017
06:31:37
You can ask DDG's personel about that though. I think they would explain that. :P

 
Vitalii
17.07.2017
06:31:52
That's a good point, I will.

 
Michał
17.07.2017
07:47:23
unrelated: I am really impressed about Polari IRC client. It's not really feature rich, but it makes basic IRC usage really convenient and nice.

 
Eduard
17.07.2017
08:08:23
Can you tell how is better than others? E.g. hex chat

 
Michał
17.07.2017
08:09:56
Can you tell how is better than others? E.g. hex chat
It's definitely less advanced, but I think it's really friendly, doesn't look intimidating and only requires from you what is absolutely necessary; not something I would recommend to be used by power users, but definitely something I would recommend to people who never used IRC before

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