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Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:11:03
Used to

Now I'm on KDE

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:13:13
Huzzah! AliExpress finally settled the dispute in my favour. Full refund and shipment fee compensation by the seller!

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:13:54
Awesome

Google
Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:14:02
Hello and welcome ?

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:14:12
Welcome aboard. :)

Будда
09.07.2017
11:14:36
Hello)

Max
09.07.2017
11:14:37
Not being able to even start apps such as the file manager as root from terminal in GNOME Wayland bothers me a lot
About a year ago i had an extenstion which gave me this functionality in Gnome file manager, so everything is possible even on Gnome ;)

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:14:47
Congratulations @gwindor for your victory!

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:15:42
Does it still exists? I didn't see it in a while

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:16:05
It should still be around

But we shouldn't need an extension just for that

It should be included already

Like in cinnamon or XFCE

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:16:49
Yes, indeed.

But that's how Gnome works. Basic things are nowhere to be seen.

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Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:17:37
IMO it has become a -childish- DE, made as simple as possible

Like the iOS interface

Max
09.07.2017
11:17:55
nah, it is just your personal needs if u need it - install it. Like it works for sublime IDE, you are free to use any plugins you want

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:19:21
IMO it has become a -childish- DE, made as simple as possible
I like it simple. But Gnome's default is way too much. After some tweaking it's nice.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:19:47
Of course, to each one its own, but I always mean the default settings

Since almost every aspect of Linux distros can be modified

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:20:38
I was wondering, why Gnome Tweak Tool wasn't installed by default. :D

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:21:10
"the user doesn't need to bother with tweaking the DE to make it more usable"

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:21:13
Because literally the first thing to do with Gnome is to enable two other buttons on window decoration.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:21:19
EXACTLY

Omg, I don't understand why the hell would you have them disabled by default

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:23:42
"the user doesn't need to bother with tweaking the DE to make it more usable"
At least it should have bare minimum of tools to adjust it to their needs.

Gnome doesn't have that minimum by default.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:23:55
Let's hope things will change a bit now that Ubuntu will use Gnome as default

Gwindor
09.07.2017
11:24:28
Yah, overall Gnome is a pretty interesting thing.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:25:23
Yup, it has its positive sides for newbies

I have converted some people to Fedora and they seemed to enjoy not using the terminal much

Because of the software app in Gnome

Max
09.07.2017
11:26:24
And don't forget that Gnome is beatiful :D I don't like other desktops

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:26:34
GNOME beautiful?

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Max
09.07.2017
11:26:40
yep for me :0

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:26:42
Hahah, you haven't seen XFCE yet

It is crazy beautiful

A beast by itself

Although the default setup and theme are ugly

The freedom it gives you is incomparable

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:28:04
Omg, I don't understand why the hell would you have them disabled by default
Neither I. And at first, it wasn't even possible to enable them.

Max
09.07.2017
11:28:04
Can't say that is so much beatiful :) Anyway I enjoy Gnome so much after using Lubunu for a few months :D

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:28:29
It is crazy beautiful
Agree. XFCE is really neat. It needs more love I think.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:28:57
Agree. XFCE is really neat. It needs more love I think.
I have been amazed by what people there at /r/unixporn have managed to create

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:29:43
GNOME beautiful?
Yeah, it can be beautiful once you tweak it.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:29:46
I have created many rices myself but get bored fast, need to change them every two weeks or so

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:30:10
rices?
Modified DE-s

Like... food?
Hahaha, no

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:30:30
Why do they call them "rices"?

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:30:32
After tweaking the desktop

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:30:42
Uh...

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:30:49
I don't really know why, it's what everyone calls them

Google
Kohane
09.07.2017
11:30:56
Ah.

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
11:31:03
So I kept going with the crowd

Kohane
09.07.2017
11:31:13
I just call it "desktop". ?

Max
09.07.2017
12:02:44
not worked on Fedora 25 :C
Have you tried "Updated method for Fedora 24" there? Or it also doesn't work for you?

Артамонов Игорь
09.07.2017
12:11:24
=))

Admin
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Liam
09.07.2017
15:48:43
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer

The term originates from Harley-Davidson owners sneering at Japanese motorcycles, which are dismissively called "rice burners"

Thus, extended to all vehicles imported into the USA

People who do pointless cosmetic customisations to these cars -- to make them _look_ like faster models, without actually improving their performance (e.g. adding spoilers, air dams, etc.) are "ricers"

So "ricing" is cosmetic, non-functional customisations

Also see: https://fun.irq.dk/funroll-loops.org/

Anxhelo
09.07.2017
16:09:49
Haha that was a lot of information

But they can also be functional customizations sometimes

bittin
09.07.2017
16:21:47
New episodes of the Mozilla IRL podcast tommorow also help at https://voice.mozilla.org/ if you guys have some spare time would be nice :)

I just commited too Project Common Voice myself as a good Mozillian :)

Gwindor
09.07.2017
16:37:15
Not giving US based organisation my voice pattern, thanks. :)

Liam
09.07.2017
16:38:53
Well, yes, but it's a slang term -- slang is rarely defined very precisely.

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Liam
09.07.2017
16:39:08
Also see: ysk-shaving, bike-shedding

Oops, sorry: yak-shaving

Michal
09.07.2017
16:39:38
Not giving US based organisation my voice pattern, thanks. :)
You can give voice or verify other recordings.

bittin
09.07.2017
16:40:46
i gave some voice, Mozilla people already know my voice as i helped contributing with stuff for 4-5 years :P

Gwindor
09.07.2017
16:41:46
You can give voice or verify other recordings.
Button "play" doesn't seem to work on Opera Mini. So, maybe sometime later.

Michal
09.07.2017
17:50:56
Button "play" doesn't seem to work on Opera Mini. So, maybe sometime later.
What system do you have? Opera Mini support is problematic in general.

Michal
09.07.2017
17:53:14
Than try Opera Mobile or brand new Firefox Focus. ;-)

Gwindor
09.07.2017
17:53:37
Too big and too slow for unstable GPRS/EDGE.

And I don't want to have multiple browsers installed.

Michal
09.07.2017
18:14:30
Focus should be about 5 MB. But I have beta builds, that are about 9 MB. But the true is Opera Mini has some data saving build in.

Gwindor
09.07.2017
18:15:12
My current internet speed is something about 4-6 kbyte/s.

Ghazwan Aliesh
09.07.2017
18:21:45
It's 100 KB/s if u pay for 4 MBps here

Gwindor
09.07.2017
18:22:45
Well, I technically pay for 4G.

Будда
09.07.2017
18:23:01
?

Seems like your provider knows how to troll`n`run.

Where are you from?

Gwindor
09.07.2017
18:24:03
Siberia.

Будда
09.07.2017
18:24:20
oh, sorry, I read 4Gb, not 4G ?

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