so no $$ for Red Hat, Suse and everyone else, and all that money goes to Microsoft, so you can wave all the nice things which are sponsored by those companies goodbye.

Oh boo-hoo, let me install windows server because they provide better ways to - oh.

Big Money is linux server.

Big Money is linux server.

Great business strategy to put all eggs in one basket and have only one source of revenue

I even gave talks about using open source software for commercial development...

Great business strategy to put all eggs in one basket and have only one source of revenue

Embedded Devices, Anything running without customer gui, Internet of Shit...

Servers, Automobiles, routers...

firewalls, vpn boxes...

Embedded Devices, Anything running without customer gui, Internet of Shit...

aaaand here we go, do you get constant updates of OSes in routers, IoS, automobiles?

point of sales...

Service to install and maintain shit and compile random applications for your consumers...

no, as the libs change and manufaxcturer would have to update the custom software, what costs money, so better leave it as it is

aaaand here we go, do you get constant updates of OSes in routers, IoS, automobiles?

yes, yes, yes Openwrt Ubuntu Core Tesla.

Vote with your fucking Money

yes, yes, yes Openwrt Ubuntu Core Tesla.

>OpenWRT >Installed by default on routers

>OpenWRT >Installed by default on routers

WRT 3200 ACS, with explicit warranty to work with it.

WRT 3200 ACS, with explicit warranty to work with it.

Is OpenWRT installed by default there?

also > $250

Is OpenWRT installed by default there?

you can order them with it and linksys works with openwrt to keep support.

also > $250

Wrt1200 ACS for the less fortunate, same promise.

you can order them with it and linksys works with openwrt to keep support.

*from 3rdparty and in bulk.

you can order them with it and linksys works with openwrt to keep support.

so this is one example. And IoT stuff? you get Linux as old as a coal and nobody cares

so this is one example. And IoT stuff? you get Linux as old as a coal and nobody cares

Ubuntu Core, with the explicit promise to keep core updated and run old shit.

people who buy that stuff don't care and never will

people who buy that stuff don't care and never will

In the eu you can get sued for having a spam mailer and cheesepizza porn downloader and if you cant prove it wasnt you... Also, companies get sued for not updating now.

You as Company now have monetary incentive to update.

in the eu.

In the eu you can get sued for having a spam mailer and cheesepizza porn downloader and if you cant prove it wasnt you... Also, companies get sued for not updating now.

good luck suing some chinese company which makes a knockoff security cameras

good luck suing some chinese company which makes a knockoff security cameras

So?

Google was partially banned in russia, lol. Let's the apocalypsis begin :D

Dont buy chinese shit

Again, vote with your wallet.

Dont buy chinese shit

yeah people for sure won't, all right

we turned auto updates off for our clients, unless they ecplicitely want them. we do updates manually (and charge for it)

yeah people for sure won't, all right

And thats why you atleast sue them.

No matter the outcome

make it hard for them.

Show them its not worth their time NOT doing it.

make them pay more than simply updating costs.

And thats why you atleast sue them.

you'll have to flood the justice system with that kind of court cases, I can see that going just as well as the battle against piracy ;)

Piracy will never die, as long as the internet exists

Same with proprietary software

you'll have to flood the justice system with that kind of court cases, I can see that going just as well as the battle against piracy ;)

piracy - 500 companies vs 300 million users not updating - 300 million users vs 500 companies.

ideally start a mass combined suing

piracy - 500 companies vs 300 million users not updating - 300 million users vs 500 companies.

once again, who you want to sue? the bogus chinese companies, who will happily go out of business to start over a day later without the court case?

once again, who you want to sue? the bogus chinese companies, who will happily go out of business to start over a day later without the court case?

Once the court case started you can ban the product from sale easier for not comlying.

chinese shit is useless when we actively catch it coming here.

Once the court case started you can ban the product from sale easier for not comlying.

what product? the one which will start being manufactured by other company under another name a day later?

"evades importing regulations" .. atleast make it hard.

what product? the one which will start being manufactured by other company under another name a day later?

you can do full range bans.

on product and derivates.

you can do full range bans.

or you can think about why those companies don't provide updates and make it easy for them, by decoupling an operating system and actual proprietary software

We literally burn pcs that come here because the CE font was the wrong one.

or you can think about why those companies don't provide updates and make it easy for them, by decoupling an operating system and actual proprietary software

Or you can make them update it. fuck them not doing it.

Make it easy for companies working with you and releasing stuff

Make it excruciatingly hard for those that dont.

Or would you want a NOMX box?

so, instead of solving the technical root of the problem, it's better to sue everyone

Heh, not sure if anyone saw this, but I found this amusing

https://fedoramagazine.org/controlling-windows-via-ansible/

Heh, not sure if anyone saw this, but I found this amusing

This morning, already eyeing it for deployment.

so, instead of solving the technical root of the problem, it's better to sue everyone

the root is solved by making everyone comply, code well and update.

And fuck those that dont

Reminder: we are living in a world where the simplest newsreader on a mobile phone is 100MB, I hate it too but well

The fact that so many devs seem to have forgotten how make clean efficient code doesn't mean that we should tolerate it. Gimp takes the same amount of space, more or less, but is a complex programme.

Fictional Calc app

What do you mean with fictional? Would you mind to explain a bit, please?

What do you mean with fictional? Would you mind to explain a bit, please?

A fictional 10mb ram consuming calc app using 100 mb shared system code

ERROR: S client not available

and the same app with overhead, sandbox, flatpak libs, flatpak libs sandboxed, namespaced and loaded seperately...

and the same app with overhead, sandbox, flatpak libs, flatpak libs sandboxed, namespaced and loaded seperately...

TBH, I don't like Flatpak. I use because of Recipes but if it would come packaged in repos I would delete it.

I see this flatpak as a nice way to quickly take a look if I like an application. If I do, I can build it outside of it. If I didn't, I saved time I had to spend on building it

It's a mess. I understand that devs say "Oh, this way I don't have to apckage it" but you don't have to do it yourself, someone else can package it. I really don't like Flatpak, I find it more annoying than helping.

It's a mess. I understand that devs say "Oh, this way I don't have to apckage it" but you don't have to do it yourself, someone else can package it. I really don't like Flatpak, I find it more annoying than helping.

+1

nomx was that company that sold raspberrypi with a crappy email server installation as the most secure thing ever? :D

nomx was that company that sold raspberrypi with a crappy email server installation as the most secure thing ever? :D

"email server" lol

but yeah

"no mx record!" ... the godaddy api only doesnt support setting mx records so you cant use it... "ITS SECURE!!!!!" ... but thats how mail works ... "Insecure mail!!!"

XD

that company was intentionally set up as a quick cash grab, selling snake oil

how is it any different from chinese camera manufacturers?

how is it any different from chinese camera manufacturers?

not much, well, chinese cameras do work, but they are done on the cheap, this one didn't did what it was advertised to do

when you buy a cheap ice cream and it's an ice cream but it's not tasty, you can blame yourself for getting the cheap one, when you buy a cheap ice cream and the packaging is empty, then you got scammed

chinese cameras are not tasty ones :D

I think we won't really help much against the cheapest manufacturers, but the better ones may use some solutions - it's just hard to expect the camera one has bought for any reasonable price to have maintained software for 15 years

changing the topic: I've been using kupfer for simple keyboard-driven application launching, but I've found rofi yesterday and I think I really like it - it's not in the default repos though

Hi JERE ! Welcome here

when you buy a cheap ice cream and it's an ice cream but it's not tasty, you can blame yourself for getting the cheap one, when you buy a cheap ice cream and the packaging is empty, then you got scammed

Totally true.

It's shamelessly ripped from https://github.com/InavL/rice ;)

Thanks sir.

HI @ammarfaizi2 ! Welcome here

Firefox good browser?

Kinda

Firefox good browser?

Very good.

HI @ammarfaizi2 ! Welcome here

Thanks

Firefox good browser?

It's good. But I personally find it a bit too heavy. On the other hand there are more extensions and things you can do with Firefox than Chrome.

Kinda

What do you like better, then?

What do you like better, then?

Edge ?

I use Yandex Browser? Big (kremlin) brother is watching me?

What do you like better, then?

I kinda like chromium because the sync ability cross platform

there's a yandex browser?