I thought Fedora was more up-to-date than that Ubuntu nonsense...

Fedora just needs to be stable

Ubuntu needs to beg for attention now that they killed everyhing users liked about them

???

I thought Fedora was more up-to-date than that Ubuntu nonsense...

It is. Compare kernel versions to make sure.

It is. Compare kernel versions to make sure.

I know, that's why I had asked about GNOME versions...

But unlike the kernel replacing a gnome version wihout updating everything below it and testing a million things there is a lot that can go wrong

It is. Compare kernel versions to make sure.

And Ubuntu compiles its own kernel

so better stay stable and prepare for the switch on system upgrade

so better stay stable and prepare for the switch on system upgrade

I'm still on 25, will switch to 26 only after RC, despite the stability of 26 beta.

I thought Fedora was more up-to-date than that Ubuntu nonsense...

Alright let's make this simplier, only idiots use Ubuntu

I'm still on 25, will switch to 26 only after RC, despite the stability of 26 beta.

I have my install script, i will just clean install again

There's a lot of copr repos for the budgie desktop on 25, which one do I use???

Alright let's make this simplier, only idiots use Ubuntu

what

I have my install script, i will just clean install again

:^)

I have my install script, i will just clean install again

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Rawhide is currently on 3.25

There's a lot of copr repos for the budgie desktop on 25, which one do I use???

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/fulltext/?fulltext=budgie-desktop

:^)

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I have one too.

But it isn't as good as yours, mind sharing it?

One sec, removing the interesting stuff that pulls my config files from my cloud and extracts them. XD

Alright let's make this simplier, only idiots use Ubuntu

I will warn you only once: There is NO NEED of insulting people just because they prefer another distribution.

I will warn you only once: There is NO NEED of insulting people just because they prefer another distribution.

The cool thing is that people don't notice that a lot of us (really a lot of us) come from Ubuntu, and some of us still use it. Also, they don't know how many things on the ubuntu community we look at to do things in Fedora (either to do it better, different or similiar)

hey guys, what's the best time for metadata_expire time in dnf? Also, why do we have the option to set it, and not dnf itself do it and let it download the expired metadata?

Relative newbie here: i just run this after I install Fedora? If I wanted a complete system?

hey guys, what's the best time for metadata_expire time in dnf? Also, why do we have the option to set it, and not dnf itself do it and let it download the expired metadata?

It will check if list checksums changed (just few kb) and if, download the new stuff.

You can disable the update service itself somewhere and you can force using the old lists with --cacheonly

Relative newbie here: i just run this after I install Fedora? If I wanted a complete system?

To simplify, how do I use it?

You can disable the update service itself somewhere and you can force using the old lists with --cacheonly

(But dont)

Relative newbie here: i just run this after I install Fedora? If I wanted a complete system?

Ye sorry i can only write this fast XD So, read it first what it does :P

In the case of that file yes you can, you could even do it on an already customized install.

Relative newbie here: i just run this after I install Fedora? If I wanted a complete system?

It's a cool script, it will install the free repo of RPM Fussion, install some good stuff, and tweak the gnome shell

It just downloads all the things i use in the end anyway and install all the stuff

Ye sorry i can only write this fast XD So, read it first what it does :P

Yea, I just looked, it installs some apps, and tweak tools, and then sets a custom theme...

It's a cool script, it will install the free repo of RPM Fussion, install some good stuff, and tweak the gnome shell

The "tweaks the gnome shell" part and "ohmyzsh" must be done by hand, asis applying the hybrid.sh color theme

And a little to do at the end

:D

because you need to apply the color theme after a reboot

I love this sticker!!!

Yes, as the comment in the 75 line says

The "tweaks the gnome shell" part and "ohmyzsh" must be done by hand, asis applying the hybrid.sh color theme

I just dont want to bother with making all my urls clean so i just snipped all the stuff :3

It's a very cool idea, do you mind if I use it as a template of sorts for my upgrading?

It's a very cool idea, do you mind if I use it as a template of sorts for my upgrading?

Feel free to

Feel free to

Thanks :)

I just got tired of always searching all the stuff together so i automated it a bit - next up, doing it in ansible. XD

I had the same idea, but I didn't make a script about it, just a txt file with the things I should install

I just got tired of always searching all the stuff together so i automated it a bit - next up, doing it in ansible. XD

OK, just to clarify: I run it, or a modification in a completed install, any version? 26+

I'd be too pissed off at copying all the things by hand so i quickened the process XD

OK, just to clarify: I run it, or a modification in a completed install, any version? 26+

On F26 see the comment in the beginning

"Change to x for Fedo 26"

Rpmfusion has another GPG key for signing F26 packages

So you need to import that one - also call this as user, not in a root shell

I'd be too pissed off at copying all the things by hand so i quickened the process XD

Yeah, I get that, it's a cool idea

so it imports the key into your keyring rather than root's

Yeah, I get that, it's a cool idea

I have similar things for snmpd setup and co

"Change to x for Fedo 26"

Gotcha!

All Tasks that i often do and get infuriated at still being too lazy to update my wiki to have any data at all so i made small autoinstaller scripts

All Tasks that i often do and get infuriated at still being too lazy to update my wiki to have any data at all so i made small autoinstaller scripts

i just love the 2 or 3 hours I have of freedom each release when I said at home: I'm going to install the new Fedora version

So, I prefer to waste the time doing it by hand

Like ### # MEMCACHED ### wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/librenms/librenms-agent/master/agent-local/memcached -O /etc/snmp/memcached.php chmod +x /etc/snmp/memcached.php nano /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf # Add: extend memcached /etc/snmp/memcached.php

I change the apps I use often enough that I actually enjoy to start fresh and only install what I'll need when I'll need it ;)

So, I prefer to waste the time doing it by hand

I'll propably have to deal with changed package names but again too lazy to actually check if any package was renamed so far XD

It will check if list checksums changed (just few kb) and if, download the new stuff.

I'm concerned because it redownload the whole 70mb worth of metadata once it expire. Either this is my system problem or it's the new dnf delta update thing. If I use yum, would it download cache like debian? (not 70mb redownload)

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I'm concerned because it redownload the whole 70mb worth of metadata once it expire. Either this is my system problem or it's the new dnf delta update thing. If I use yum, would it download cache like debian? (not 70mb redownload)

There is no delta metadata update

Fedoras rpm metadata is just massive.

Hmm I see

if you want small metadata go to centos - almost no changes mean almost nothing to download. XD

That's actually not a bad idea. I'd like to keep my system small, so I don't think 70mb is worth the download to update 5mb packages. centos it is then.

I don't have any DE. Only i3wm as a wm. I use mc and pcmanfom as a file managers, firefox as browser, vim as text editor, vlc as mediaplayer.

Why no desktop?

That's actually not a bad idea. I'd like to keep my system small, so I don't think 70mb is worth the download to update 5mb packages. centos it is then.

It will be rather outdated tough.

That's actually not a bad idea. I'd like to keep my system small, so I don't think 70mb is worth the download to update 5mb packages. centos it is then.

5Mb updates?

You apparently either too often or too few times update fedora XD

yee too often actually. I want to learn how to manage a fedora webserver so would like to optimize bandwidth.

Is someone here fluent with the GraphicsMagick C API?

yee too often actually. I want to learn how to manage a fedora webserver so would like to optimize bandwidth.

Use Ipfire infront of it and enable the update accelerator or opnsense and allow squid reverse proxy to cache it.

Use Ipfire infront of it and enable the update accelerator or opnsense and allow squid reverse proxy to cache it.

(This will only make sense if atleast two of the same os' are behind the firewall)

I prefer to view PDFs at phone or at e-reader.

Or you have very good eyes or your phone is huge....

Okular or evince are good candidates. I use the first one for pdfs.

I like Okular most of the time and Atril for simple fast viewing.

Feh as image viewer. Darktable as image processor. Firefox as pdf viewer. No calendar apps. WPS Office as office suite.

Techincally Firefox is not the pdf reader, it's the pdf.js library the one who do the trick

I like Okular most of the time and Atril for simple fast viewing.

I like Atril

yee too often actually. I want to learn how to manage a fedora webserver so would like to optimize bandwidth.

oh, if you run a webserver i might have more tips but it starts with installing tuned. XD

oh, if you run a webserver i might have more tips but it starts with installing tuned. XD

That's a must do right now, even before answering anything else in the chat

Fedora just needs to be stable

Kinda opposite of fedora's philosophy, isn't it?)

Kinda opposite of fedora's philosophy, isn't it?)

From what do you deduct that?

From 13 to 16 versions :D

Fedora runs extremely stable, and i use it at work and at home for private machines

It was not always like that. But yes, modern fedora _is_ stable, must admit. I use it for work and at home too

mine sucks.

I love this sticker!!!

Me too.

Hola...

Hello, Daniel!

Disculpen... ¿Alguien aquí habla español?

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Si, pero no aqui.

Habla ingles por favor