how to used it ?

install via app store or terminal, start via menu

ok

did not work

No, virt-manager replaces virtualbox

it doesnt fix the virtualbox error because it can and should fully make it obsolete

HI @pat_sam ! Welcome to the group

Thanks!!!

My pleasure

me too

What is the gender ratio in fedora community

I mean, I'm a girl, so at least 938:1 :p

I know another so maybe 938:2

I'm my experience there are many people on the Internet to readily inform you of their doghood

They are good dogs

I'm my experience there are many people on the Internet to readily inform you of their doghood

whoami?

are you a dog

I'm an Apache Helicopter, not a dog

I'm an Apache Helicopter, not a dog

same

hello guys right now i have fedora 25 as sole operating system on my laptop but now i am in dire need of windows at my work and have to install it. I have attached an image of how my partition table looks like. Can i install the new windows OS at free space.

i think u do, why not? but i think u will need to restore grub afterwards

and then also recover fedora?

so youll need a bootable usb with fedora

after u have ur windows installed

but doesnt window makes its own partitions at start of the disk?

never heard of it, but i don't know D:

i installed windows after installing linux systems, and it was okay, but maybe ur case is different idk D:

and you had to recover the grub only?

yep

are you a dog

He means the German movie WHO AM I, I guess

WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER GENDERS?

Just kidding lol

For me a poor guy (ha ha) if I need Photoshop I must have to satisfy myself with gimp

'must have to satisfy with gimp'. Well first of all, gimp is a much more advanced tool than photoshop, with the scripting API you can do pretty much any pixel manipulation, secondly, for drawing, you use Krita anyway. Gimp actually gets all the new photoshop features like non-destructive editing in the next versions, and yes, gimp has a noob mode. Window -> Single Window Mode

'must have to satisfy with gimp'. Well first of all, gimp is a much more advanced tool than photoshop, with the scripting API you can do pretty much any pixel manipulation, secondly, for drawing, you use Krita anyway. Gimp actually gets all the new photoshop features like non-destructive editing in the next versions, and yes, gimp has a noob mode. Window -> Single Window Mode

Scripting yes. And lol "next version". It's been "next version" for the last 5 years.

the bigger advantage of Photoshop, Microsoft Office, etc. is that almost all courses and formations are focused on these programs

Meanwhile Photoshop has been doing later effects forever

and for people that learn these programs is hard to change to others

besides propietary monopoly Microsoft Office formats

At this point in time, GIMP can't kiss Photoshop's boots.

Same with LibreOffice vs Microsoft Office.

Unless all you care about is freedom and not productivity...

Excel has many more functions that LibreOffice Calc

but for word processing I think that they are similar, though I have not used them for years

Well. Similar... Maybe.

But you need to spend much more time tweaking LibreOffice Writer

Whereas Microsoft Office ships with tons of templates and styles

And is easier to navigate in general.

yes, that is true

Which is kind of a big deal...

but LibreOffice 5.3 interface is promising

But MS XML, docx and others are not standard formats

They suffer from incompatibility

But MS XML, docx and others are not standard formats

Actually OOXML is an ISO standard

And that is why ms is still around

and open source style of LibreOffice does easier create templates that everybody can use

What you mean is that not even Microsoft respects OOXML

And it's true

But MS XML, docx and others are not standard formats

yes, this I wanted to mean

But in any case for serious writing you use LaTeX and nothing else

That's why we should use LO

That's why we should use LO

No thanks.

I'll continue using LaTeX

Microsoft Office can save in odf too, but almost nobody save as odf

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Don't need to spend 4 hours tuning the appearance.

Everyone is free to use what they want

But if I need the files to work everywhere, I'll use LO

LaTeX rules, but no everybody want and can create documents using TeX

many people only want to open the program, write and view the result while writing

You output it in PDF...

the quality of these documents use to be poor, but it is the big percentage of documents ?

yes, you output in PDF, but you have to understand LaTeX syntax and commands

You output it in PDF...

Ok then, for printing, sure, but if I want to edit it again pre-printing, then what?

there are some programs to write LaTeX as Word, but you lose LaTeX power and they are not great

I don't​ have time to open Inkscape or smth else and edit it again

lol

many people has not technical profile, and they probably would never use LaTeX

You don't have time to open a proper LaTeX editor but you have time to use LibreOffice Writer?

I mean, the latter is a huge waste of time...

What's the time difference?

I am talking about the average Joe here

Whom doesn't know how to use Latex

What is the gender ratio in fedora community

Do you want a mathematical or statistic info or just an overall view?

LaTeX is great for professionals, but it is not good for everybody

LaTeX is great for professionals, but it is not good for everybody

It is like asking people to use vim to edit simple notes instead Notepad

LaTeX is great for professionals, but it is not good for everybody

Of course, but I always base what I say in terms of basic users because they make up 95% of users

LaTeX is great for professionals, but it is not good for everybody

Agree. LaTex got on my nerves every time I tried to use it.

I don't really care about the average joe, to be quite honest...

Because you are pro

Software is made to be used by anyone

Because I'm in a Fedora community, full of very capable IT people.

they are not going to understand its power and they won't be able to use it

Pro users will figure it out on their own

I don't earn money by having people use LaTeX, I'm talking to you guys

lol