Choose deepin

Debian based

It Fedora considered more of a beta for centos / rhel?

Choose deepin

"Linux Deepin is a Ubuntu derivative..." - so I end up with Ubuntu + some packages? ;)

I've not used the server version

It Fedora considered more of a beta for centos / rhel?

*Isn't

It Fedora considered more of a beta for centos / rhel?

I think it's not accurate, of course many technologies are polished in Fedora to be later included in RHEL, but it's not that Fedora "matures" and is turned into RHEL

"Linux Deepin is a Ubuntu derivative..." - so I end up with Ubuntu + some packages? ;)

Deepin 15.4 based on Debian unstable branch and has unique DE.?

It Fedora considered more of a beta for centos / rhel?

No but yeah

Fedora has a LTS version?

Fedora has a LTS version?

Nope, if you need long term support, CentOS / RHEL would be the choice

Fedora is stable distro which itself has a beta release (fedora 26 when the 25 is the stable one) so no But red hat tests the new features which will be added to CentOS on fedora so yeah fedora somehow is centOS beta.

Fedora has a LTS version?

Why on earth a user needs LTS ?, it's servers issue where the stability is awfully important

Deepin 15.4 based on Debian unstable branch and has unique DE.?

the lack of unique DE and perfect stability and community support is why I use Fedora ;) I may try Deepin for fun, but I doubt I will switch for good

Nope, if you need long term support, CentOS / RHEL would be the choice

RHEL is free??

RHEL is free??

You can get developer license for free.

RHEL is free??

CentOS is a free, rebranded RHEL

But CentOS is basically same RHEL.

in RHEL you mainly pay for support

Why on earth a user needs LTS ?, it's servers issue where the stability is awfully important

Lts is important if you install an OS on a family member's system and you don't want it to stop receiving updates in a year

If that makes sense

Lts is important if you install an OS on a family member's system and you don't want it to stop receiving updates in a year

What prevent u from running the update command when your OS is outdated ?

What prevent u from running the update command when your OS is outdated ?

Too comfort in old version

What prevent u from running the update command when your OS is outdated ?

upgrading to a new release is always a risk, so if you don't want to remotely support your family members, LTS is a good solution

What prevent u from running the update command when your OS is outdated ?

I don't live near most of my family. Prefer to avoid the hassle

the lack of unique DE and perfect stability and community support is why I use Fedora ;) I may try Deepin for fun, but I doubt I will switch for good

May be i have to try Fedora.Sometime?

upgrading to a new release is always a risk, so if you don't want to remotely support your family members, LTS is a good solution

Pretty much this.

upgrading to a new release is always a risk, so if you don't want to remotely support your family members, LTS is a good solution

Agree.LTS is important too for daily using.

My new favourite GNOME extension. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/floating-video-ubuntu-gnome-extension

the lack of unique DE and perfect stability and community support is why I use Fedora ;) I may try Deepin for fun, but I doubt I will switch for good

Deepin desktop can be installed on Fedora though...

My new favourite GNOME extension. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/floating-video-ubuntu-gnome-extension

Is that Ubuntu or Windows 10?

Deepin desktop can be installed on Fedora though...

yeah, but if I prefer to use XFCE, why should I install the Deepin distribution? ;)

Ubuntu ofc

Deepin desktop can be installed on Fedora though...

Wow,how ??

Ubuntu ofc

It looks like Windows 10 though. :)

modified as hell

yeah

Ubuntu gnome, which he's themed to resemble a "traditional" UI...

Wow,how ??

There's a copr repo, plz google it...

It looks like Windows 10 though. :)

I can make the same in Fedora GNOME rn just by editing 3 settings in the dash to dock

@michalrud, did you set up custom icontheme support in i3?

I can make the same in Fedora GNOME rn just by editing 3 settings in the dash to dock

He's done pretty much the same, w/ dash to panel tho'..

@michalrud, did you set up custom icontheme support in i3?

not yet, isn't lxappearance enough to do so?

not yet, isn't lxappearance enough to do so?

I don't have that application.

Never heard of it actually.

Of course, my rant against Arch (which is cool, but I don't use it as a daily driver because it's a rolling release) should not be understood as saying that Ubuntu is good ?

what's wrong with a rolling release?

I don't have that application.

try it, it's LXDE's app for changing GTK themes and so on

Gonna check it out, thanks.

what's wrong with a rolling release?

I don't like the suprise breaking changes which can appear when casually upgrading, with traditional releases you can know when any problems can be expected, so you can do it when it's convenient

can anyone help with this?

[darkabhi@inspiron ~] $ pip install —upgrade pip Collecting pip Using cached pip-9.0.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl Installing collected packages: pip Found existing installation: pip 8.1.2 Uninstalling pip-8.1.2: Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 215, in main status = self.run(options, args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/install.py", line 326, in run strip_file_prefix=options.strip_file_prefix, File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_set.py", line 736, in install requirement.uninstall(auto_confirm=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_install.py", line 742, in uninstall paths_to_remove.remove(auto_confirm) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_uninstall.py", line 115, in remove renames(path, new_path) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/utils/__init__.py", line 267, in renames shutil.move(old, new) File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/shutil.py", line 303, in move os.unlink(src) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/bin/pip' You are using pip version 8.1.2, however version 9.0.1 is available. You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install —upgrade pip' command.

try it, it's LXDE's app for changing GTK themes and so on

Well, it doesn't seem to work.

[darkabhi@inspiron ~] $ pip install —upgrade pip Collecting pip Using cached pip-9.0.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl Installing collected packages: pip Found existing installation: pip 8.1.2 Uninstalling pip-8.1.2: Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 215, in main status = self.run(options, args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/install.py", line 326, in run strip_file_prefix=options.strip_file_prefix, File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_set.py", line 736, in install requirement.uninstall(auto_confirm=True) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_install.py", line 742, in uninstall paths_to_remove.remove(auto_confirm) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_uninstall.py", line 115, in remove renames(path, new_path) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/utils/__init__.py", line 267, in renames shutil.move(old, new) File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/shutil.py", line 303, in move os.unlink(src) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/bin/pip' You are using pip version 8.1.2, however version 9.0.1 is available. You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install —upgrade pip' command.

1. please use pastebins in the future, 2. I think you may need to use sudo, but I'm not fluent enough with python's ecosystem to say for sure

1. please use pastebins in the future, 2. I think you may need to use sudo, but I'm not fluent enough with python's ecosystem to say for sure

okay my bad

There's a copr repo, plz google it...

I think so risky.Manjaro is another choice. Manjaro officially has Deepin desktop option

Well, it doesn't seem to work.

no idea then ? you're talking about the GTK icon themes, not some i3 internal icons?

no idea then ? you're talking about the GTK icon themes, not some i3 internal icons?

GTK exclusively.

For tray and stuff.

I don't like the suprise breaking changes which can appear when casually upgrading, with traditional releases you can know when any problems can be expected, so you can do it when it's convenient

never faced with such troubles before, but using rolling release, it's just required regular update, If you rarely update the system, then it can break

never faced with such troubles before, but using rolling release, it's just required regular update, If you rarely update the system, then it can break

I updated almost daily when I used it, but it was the time when xorg had to be configured in xorg.conf, and I had keyboard and mouse explicitly configured there, which were replaced by evdev... so after restart suprise, xorg.conf is not valid anymore

"Linux Deepin is a Ubuntu derivative..." - so I end up with Ubuntu + some packages? ;)

Haha

I'm not saying Arch is bad, but when I need Linux for work and I want it to be 100% dependable despite constant updating, then I don't think Arch is a good choice

also: Sublime Text has an official dnf repo now: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/linux_repositories.html#dnf

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They added touch bar support

Maybe it's time to go back to ST3

They added touch bar support

emoji bar? ?

Try it out, I think you will like it

Try it out, I think you will like it

I will when someone around will have a mbp with it, but it doesn't look like a near future though

Try it out, I think you will like it

also, what about the tactile feedback? if I'd like to type without looking at the keyboard, I guess touchbar is useless in that usecase

also, what about the tactile feedback? if I'd like to type without looking at the keyboard, I guess touchbar is useless in that usecase

Eh, i hit the esc key 100% of the time

For the rest you obviously have to look

But considering keys like F11 aren't really a thing on macOS...

I'm not a 100% touch typist anyway

But considering keys like F11 aren't really a thing on macOS...

they are for me :D

The touch bar is more like an extension

they are for me :D

No. F11 does not fullscreen on macOS

That's the thing

how is touchbar support for linux?

No. F11 does not fullscreen on macOS

f11 maybe not, but I stay a lot of time in the console on macosx, so I use function keys quite much

and how does the x1 carbon compare to the mbp 15"?

how is touchbar support for linux?

Non-existant

I very much prefer the MBP to any Lenovo laptops

f11 maybe not, but I stay a lot of time in the console on macosx, so I use function keys quite much

What?

What for? ?

Non-existant

then how can you use the keyboard!?

What for? ?

mc for example

then how can you use the keyboard!?

As of right now you can't even install Linux

But you can use the keyboard

Just not the touch bar

:c

right now I'm considering buying a 40% keyboard, so I guess lack of function keys won't be much of an issue, but currently MBP is too expensive for me and I guess it will be for a few years anyway so I don't even consider buying that laptop :D

right now I'm considering buying a 40% keyboard, so I guess lack of function keys won't be much of an issue, but currently MBP is too expensive for me and I guess it will be for a few years anyway so I don't even consider buying that laptop :D

What is a 40% keyboard?

What is a 40% keyboard?

https://mykeyboard.eu/media/cache/b4/84/b484a4dc09775ccafce36fdcabc73a3a.jpg

Weird hmm