This is a production machine tough? Or a playtoy to test and then reinstall everything?

It is a workstation.

So, neither.

Why are you doing this then?

Why are you doing this then?

Just listed why.

Because I would anyway do upgrade to 26 and 27 and 28.

For that very very tiny kernel change that comes to everyone in ~10 days or so?

For that very very tiny kernel change that comes to everyone in ~10 days or so?

4.12, for a moment.

Because I would anyway do upgrade to 26 and 27 and 28.

But why go rawhide instead and not use that update path?

But why go rawhide instead and not use that update path?

Because you go to rawhide once and update many times.

I mean hearing that packages aren't signed would instantly make it a nogo to permanently use

I mean hearing that packages aren't signed would instantly make it a nogo to permanently use

It did.

aside them being broken half the time in my experience

Because you go to rawhide once and update many times.

i rather do stable updates

It is a workstation.

Bad choice.

Because I would anyway do upgrade to 26 and 27 and 28.

Rawhide is rolling release. It will never updates to F27, etc. It will always be Rawhide.

We arent in working rolling release land here - expect things to break on updates and all

Rawhide is rolling release. It will never updates to F27, etc. It will always be Rawhide.

I know, hence why I wanted to do so.

Bad choice.

Works for me.

I know, hence why I wanted to do so.

You should use stable Fedora release with enabled fedora-testing repositories.

I know, hence why I wanted to do so.

The amount of Points against it - well if a newer kernel makes it up to you...

The amount of Points against it - well if a newer kernel makes it up to you...

Wanted is a key word.

Not signed packages is a stop word.

"Broken Updates" wasnt?

"Permanently not working system" wasnt?

Those were said afterwards.

Fedora Rawhide is designed for developers, not end users. It's kernel packages built without optimizations and with lots of debug information.

Plus @pionen said that Rawhide is stable enough for daily use.

Its like arch but somehow worse.

Plus @pionen said that Rawhide is stable enough for daily use.

I have quite a few negative remarks on that.

Anyway, since there is no rolling release other than Rawhide, I am staying on 25 then.

Anyway, since there is no rolling release other than Rawhide, I am staying on 25 then.

You can switch to F26 alpha. ?

You can switch to F26 alpha. ?

That'd be Branched, right?

Plus @pionen said that Rawhide is stable enough for daily use.

Ugh... Definitely not...

Plus @pionen said that Rawhide is stable enough for daily use.

With i3wm...

With i3wm...

Which I use.

Plus @pionen said that Rawhide is stable enough for daily use.

You shouldn't take what someone says as an absolute truth...

Hi @darkabhi welcome!

Thanks ?

Please, read the pinned message and feel free to ask anything you may need.

Yes I did

Yes I did

Remember it well, exam is tomorrow

I shifted from Ubuntu to arch was unsuccessful in installing it ? And came to my second favourite❤️

Remember it well, exam is tomorrow

?

Sure

Remember it well, exam is tomorrow

LOL

LOL

???

Ha ya I had a problem I'm on F25 Gnome DE How do I get shortcut to launch terminal? And how to install chromium getting errors

You shouldn't take what someone says as an absolute truth...

How you dare to deny this "absolute truth..."? ?

Ha ya I had a problem I'm on F25 Gnome DE How do I get shortcut to launch terminal? And how to install chromium getting errors

Anyone have solutions ?

Anyone have solutions ?

Give me a sec, I will fire up my GNOME Shell box.

Anyone have solutions ?

Go to GNOME Settings by pressing: Windows Key, then type Settings. Select Keyboard.

Scroll down to the botton:

Click the +

Make sure you add the Keyboard shortcut at first.

In this example I will user Windows key + t

For some reason did not work.

And GNONE got stuck XD

Well I tried to log out and GNOME got stuck, I had to power it off the hard way, turned it on again, logged it and the shortcut works.

ERROR: S client not available

Ha ya I had a problem I'm on F25 Gnome DE How do I get shortcut to launch terminal? And how to install chromium getting errors

su -c "dnf install chromium" I don't know how to install it and get errors, werks for me™

su -c "dnf install chromium" I don't know how to install it and get errors, werks for me™

what errors? also, do sudo su instead

sudo -i dnf install chromium

Ha ya I had a problem I'm on F25 Gnome DE How do I get shortcut to launch terminal? And how to install chromium getting errors

Ha ya I had a problem I'm on F25 Gnome DE How do I get shortcut to launch terminal? And how to install chromium getting errors

_which errors_

Not that you get them, what does the terminal tell you?

Oh him not you

Ask him... @darkabhi

what errors? also, do sudo su instead

I prefer su -c "... "

I prefer su -c "... "

i often do multiple commands or want to do commands that involve echo and all and not worry about escaping

zsh highlighting only does so much

i often do multiple commands or want to do commands that involve echo and all and not worry about escaping

Good point.

sudo is too Ubuntish for me.

sudo is too Ubuntish for me.

uh...it's not just Ubuntu.

I've used Linux for at least the past decade+

sudo is too Ubuntish for me.

What the fucking fuck.

It is a bad practice from my very humble point of view.

sudo is too Ubuntish for me.

sudo -i does give you a clean root environment tough

It is a bad practice from my very humble point of view.

You aren't going to have improved security by prefixing every command in a list of 15 with su .c

And given I don't share my boxes I'm fine with su -c "...

i dont share them either

sudo isn't bad practice

limiting access is. Principle of Least Privilege

sudo isn't bad practice

Oh yes, It is.

but then again i mostly use cockpit to remotely manage all my things and login with root via public key over vpn so...

limiting access is. Principle of Least Privilege

Well I limit my daily use account to that, daily use only without any administrative privileges.

Eh, i mostly login to do upgrades that didnt run because they required interaction or check failing backups/cronjobs so i mostly need root from the very beginning anyway

Eh, i mostly login to do upgrades that didnt run because they required interaction or check failing backups/cronjobs so i mostly need root from the very beginning anyway

I don't like being root

Oh yes, It is.

Wat

its just become a need for me to be root in seconds anyway and its all on servers only - i wouldn't run my local user as root.

its just become a need for me to be root in seconds anyway and its all on servers only - i wouldn't run my local user as root.

I use ansible