Now I only use ICQ.

Eeeewwww

Eeeewwww

It is a small price for 40% of my monthly income.

Wait what?

I just said. I use it to let people who give me hardware for repair contact me.

Oh

I just said. I use it to let people who give me hardware for repair contact me.

Required for business :)

How are you guys

Cool

Who is from the UK?

Welcome aboard. :)

How are you guys

Quite OK. :)

Quite OK. :)

Hello

Where a u from

?

Not from the UK. :)

Siberia.

In Europe

Very long from us

Indonesia ?

Indonesia ?

?

I know about Indonesia

Very long from us

It not so far, as you think :)

I'm from Tashkent

In Europe

Siberia is in Asia, for a moment. :)

I'm from Tashkent

I know

Welcome!!!

Arch hmm?

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

What if someone just want to lurk around before doing so?

What if someone just want to lurk around before doing so?

Still can salute

True

Just a "Hi, I'm here just to listen"

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

I agree with @gwindor, someone may just want to come, look around and see whether there will be anything worth staying for; also are bots a problem if they don't send spam around?

I agree with @gwindor, someone may just want to come, look around and see whether there will be anything worth staying for; also are bots a problem if they don't send spam around?

This

Well, it's an idea, if you don't like, don't do it, it was just me wondering about preventing bots a little bit

As long as they don't spam I'm fine with them

If they spam ban them to hell

I don't know what others think about it, it's a good idea but I don't think bots are such an inconvenience now to require such things :)

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

I think this is not a good idea.

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

I agree with the others. I commonly lurk in channels where I am debating joining to get a feeling for the community and conversation. I think we should reactively deal with bot spam until it becomes an overwhelming problem like we did with the Fedora Wiki

@jflory7 @Kohane @sesivany @ignatenkobrain @bexelbie @michalrud @AnXh3L0 Can we set a rule that every new member needs salute or present him/her self? I mean, trying to discard bots...

The last thing a member does it when he joins a group is to read its rules, still good idea though

Any idea abt why grub doesn't declare the command systemctl ?

Any idea abt why grub doesn't declare the command systemctl ?

what do you mean? systemctl is a part of systemd, and systemd and grub are two completely separate things as far as I know

what do you mean? systemctl is a part of systemd, and systemd and grub are two completely separate things as far as I know

I know grub is minimal bash like, since I don't have an access to terminal, I tried to run this command in grup systemctl show status but it couldn't find this command

I know grub is minimal bash like, since I don't have an access to terminal, I tried to run this command in grup systemctl show status but it couldn't find this command

grub command is running in grub itself, linux is not running yet, so no linux commands are available

I would assume that bash-like means that tab completion is available ?

My bad, yes it is and systemctl isn't supported.

We could just say hi in the moment they join. Ppl usually answer to those :)our bot, Johnny Doe could do that for us :) Maybe

The one I found here : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM Sudo dnf install sddm systemctl enable --force sddm.service

There's a tiny app that is for seetting the preferred DM. It even has a graphic interface. You should have use that.

There's a tiny app that is for seetting the preferred DM. It even has a graphic interface. You should have use that.

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

You could try like live booting another Linux iso, copying the files to an external storage device, if you're forced to reinstall....

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

run a live cd/usb you use to install and copy your files

before you instalk

or you will probably lose the files

run a live cd/usb you use to install and copy your files

I said the same thing! Great minds think alike!!!?

That's such a good solution, thanks @michalrud @disisdrsid

I agree with @gwindor, someone may just want to come, look around and see whether there will be anything worth staying for; also are bots a problem if they don't send spam around?

I don't think so. And if they send, we can delete it. We're not getting an overwhelming amount of spam at the present moment, so I think is okay as it is now.

what do you mean? systemctl is a part of systemd, and systemd and grub are two completely separate things as far as I know

Still

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

For future reference, keep /home and / as separated partitions so if you experience any problem with your system you can fresh install without touching your work.

Still

I think there's something in systemd for uefi... ?

We could just say hi in the moment they join. Ppl usually answer to those :)our bot, Johnny Doe could do that for us :) Maybe

We are normally here to do that ;)

ERROR: S client not available

I have to reinstall fedora apparently

There is no need. Graphical session runs on tty1, you can switch to tty2 and run commands for recover your DM

Is there a way to sandbox Firefox? Or to give it a limit of RAM and if is asking for more just crash it???

What's preferable, LVM or Standard Partitions?

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/debian_stretch_omits_secure_boot/

Does this apply to UEFI also? Can I install this version in my UEFI machine?

For future reference, keep /home and / as separated partitions so if you experience any problem with your system you can fresh install without touching your work.

Does this approach ensure seamless transition? I'm not sure if this will present any issues.

Does something look familiar to anyone else? ? http://www.flowfitnessseattle.com/

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

there is a way. to mount this partitions under another Linux system which supports lvm you need to know your main root password.

I followed the official fedora project instructions (not just an answer on Q&A site), hopefully I won't loss my important files during the formatting (university projects) cuz it's the first time I format fedora machine

then you can safely save your data. and then format.

Does something look familiar to anyone else? ? http://www.flowfitnessseattle.com/

Woah! Can they do that? Aren't there laws about this?

What's preferable, LVM or Standard Partitions?

lvm is a bit complicated to configure and to work with. but it allows you to encrypt the partition

Does this approach ensure seamless transition? I'm not sure if this will present any issues.

It never presented issues to me. I install, make a new user and that's it.

lvm is a bit complicated to configure and to work with. but it allows you to encrypt the partition

We can still encrypt using Standard Partitions, IMO

Why would it present any issues, @dhanesh95 ?

@Kohane I don't know. If it worked for you then I would definitely like to try it this time.

The one I found here : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM Sudo dnf install sddm systemctl enable --force sddm.service

Did you disable gdm.service?

I'm using F24 and can't wait to install F26

@Kohane I don't know. If it worked for you then I would definitely like to try it this time.

I've been doing this kind of installation for 10 years, tried it with all distributions except Gentoo.

I have to reinstall fedora apparently

And this is why mixing and trying to remove later is a bad idea.

I've been doing this kind of installation for 10 years, tried it with all distributions except Gentoo.

Woah! That's enough to convince me. :P

Where is SAN implemented? And how does it work?

What's preferable, LVM or Standard Partitions?

I prefer LVM when I need to encrypt /, /home and swap, this way I don't have to type the password for dencrypt the partitions 3 times. LVM on LUKS. Also this only requires one primary partition. When renistalling I still able to reuse the logical volume dedicated to /home so no need to back up and wipe it. If you are using UEFI and GPT, the number of primary partitions is not a problem you can easily create primary partitions a much as you might need, and still being able to encrypt them.

If you need to increase the size and space of one partition dynamically by adding extra drives, LVM is the right solution.

I prefer LVM when I need to encrypt /, /home and swap, this way I don't have to type the password for dencrypt the partitions 3 times. LVM on LUKS. Also this only requires one primary partition. When renistalling I still able to reuse the logical volume dedicated to /home so no need to back up and wipe it. If you are using UEFI and GPT, the number of primary partitions is not a problem you can easily create primary partitions a much as you might need, and still being able to encrypt them.

Even in case you can chain the lv by creating its pv and again using it as an storage drive

lvm is a bit complicated to configure and to work with. but it allows you to encrypt the partition

On Fedora, Anaconda the installer shows as default method LVM during partitioning, and if you want and encrypted install is easy as marking a checkbox.

I prefer LVM when I need to encrypt /, /home and swap, this way I don't have to type the password for dencrypt the partitions 3 times. LVM on LUKS. Also this only requires one primary partition. When renistalling I still able to reuse the logical volume dedicated to /home so no need to back up and wipe it. If you are using UEFI and GPT, the number of primary partitions is not a problem you can easily create primary partitions a much as you might need, and still being able to encrypt them.

I think I'll stick with Standard Partitions. Although LVM is an interesting option, I don't think it'll be of much use for my use case

We can still encrypt using Standard Partitions, IMO

Yes, but if you plan to encrypt / /home swap I think you will have to type the same password 3 times. With LVM on LUKS you only type it once and you still able to reuse /home when reinstalling the next time. As a side note /boot need to be out the LUKS patition that contains the LVM VG. Anaconda does it for you if you free some space, mark "I will configure partitioning", mark "Encrypt all my data", click "done" and on the next stage click on "Click here to Automatically create them"

@pionen Any thoughts on performance?