Atom is really slow :(

Just pay the license. Totally worth it :)

I have

It's pretty snappy for me in my experiences

It gets unbearable after a few add-ons

Just pay the license. Totally worth it :)

Atom is alive in contrast to Sublime which is almost not developed anymore

Just pay the license. Totally worth it :)

Ehh, I love Sublime, but I think I'd rather commit myself to Vim before I paid the license because I'd be able to use that on any operating system, GUI or not

Ehh, I love Sublime, but I think I'd rather commit myself to Vim before I paid the license because I'd be able to use that on any operating system, GUI or not

Good idea!

can all tel me sublime best alternative in fedora . "best"

Vim and emacs

I paid ST3 and use Vim almost exclusively now too

Atom is really slow :(

I didn't find it very slow, and I will always prefer something without license issues. Sublime is nice, but....

Atom is alive in contrast to Sublime which is almost not developed anymore

Eh I don't think that's the case :P

Eh I don't think that's the case :P

I paid for ST3 and use it daily nowadays, but I am worried that it will just stop being developed

especially comparing to the pace with which Visual Studio Code is developed...

I paid for ST3 and use it daily nowadays, but I am worried that it will just stop being developed

Huh? An editor is an editor

What you should worry is plugins

And I don't think they are going anywhere

especially comparing to the pace with which Visual Studio Code is developed...

Well considering VSCode is basically a browser... No thanks.

I don't want to load a huge binary to just edit files.

What you should worry is plugins

yeah, but the plugins can only do what the editor allows them to do, Sublime allows for some stuff while in Atom you can modify practically everything

but I agree, Atom is too big and too slow for me as well

no perfect solution I guess

Both Atom and VSCode still crashes on text files >2 GB.

Anyway...

I use Vim so

I don't really care about anything else anymore x3

I use Vim in console mode and Sublime in GUI.

Both Atom and VSCode still crashes on text files >2 GB.

I never seen such a huge file. Not programming at least...

vimwiki is one thing I always go back to

I never seen such a huge file. Not programming at least...

logs can get that huge sometimes

I never seen such a huge file. Not programming at least...

Log files for example.

Log files for example.

Mmm... interesting. I don't keep them for long. Maybe that's why they don't grow.

I use Vim in console mode and Sublime in GUI.

Vim is nice. And there's GUI for it.

Mmm... interesting. I don't keep them for long. Maybe that's why they don't grow.

My website generate access.log file >2 GB every week.

you should rotate logs more

you should rotate logs more

No. Once a week is optimal for me.

My website generate access.log file >2 GB every week.

Ah, okay. I haven't a website located in my computer. Now I understand.

Ah, okay. I haven't a website located in my computer. Now I understand.

Not on my computer, on a dedicated server. But I need to view logs sometimes.

ooo h

Calling telegrams's added feature, Congratulations

happy

Not on my computer, on a dedicated server. But I need to view logs sometimes.

Yes, of course. But I have nothing of that sort, that's what I meant.

Although I moved mine to /opt/ and put the .desktop file into /usr/share/applications/

I prefer to use $HOME/opt and $HOME/.local/share/applications instead. But this is personal;)

Vim and emacs

is it possible to install them both on the same drive? I thought they should start fighting:)

is it possible to install them both on the same drive? I thought they should start fighting:)

No, they're actually quite chivalrous. ?

No, they're actually quite chivalrous. ?

So, we need 10 more for the round table

LOL, yes

is it possible to install them both on the same drive? I thought they should start fighting:)

Choose one.

Stay on topic please.

And how keep talking about ubuntu and unity is "on topic" and different than share a new about other distro?

one could argue that the ubuntu & unity news will have an impact on all distros

for example, ubuntu devs working on gnome

And how keep talking about ubuntu and unity is "on topic" and different than share a new about other distro?

For me Ubuntu is offtopic too. ?

The second option is obviously not allowed but I see no issue with the first

i'd argue that people should use the best tool for the job and if that's not fedora then we should be allowed to tell them that for their needs another distro might be best

For me Ubuntu is offtopic too. ?

the group should have a consistent policy?

can all tel me sublime best alternative in fedora . "best"

The problem is that there is no "Best" because best for me isn't best for you. I like vim, basically luve vim, but maybe you don't like it

can all tel me sublime best alternative in fedora . "best"

Emacs.

And how keep talking about ubuntu and unity is "on topic" and different than share a new about other distro?

Criticizing other competitive distro is totally on topic (human nature ?)

Oh

hei how is keyboard change language ? combination is? alt shift?

and how to change root pwd

and dewauld keyboard change?

hei how is keyboard change language ? combination is? alt shift?

cmd+space (or win+space)

hei how is keyboard change language ? combination is? alt shift?

on Gnome Super + Space

what is super key?

"win"?

the Windows Button

yes

ERROR: S client not available

ok tnx

and keyboard language default change?

yeah, you should be able to see the enabled Keyboard Layout

what is this ctrl+alt+tab

huh neat

i guess that changes focus of stuff

GNOME can be driven via Keyboard shortcuts, I love them.

GNOME can be driven via Keyboard shortcuts, I love them.

Agreed

does anyone know who runs Linuxgram?

It's the most efficient desktop for keyboard-driven functionality

and ctrl alt f3? wtf?

black scrren txt

You switched to a TTY

Try Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+F7

Try Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+F7

Ctrl+Alt+F1 is default to loging session, GDM in this case. Ctrl+Alt+F2 is the current graphical session, and it goes as you log in with another user from GDM or tty if you use the text based login.

ctrl+alt+f1 fake? because login pwd. i am writing the pwd but i cannot login why? and repeat combination ctrl+alt+f2 i can no problem login

It's the most efficient desktop for keyboard-driven functionality

try a tiling WM

try a tiling WM

One key access to documents, web search, calculator, open windows, files anywhere on my system... Yeah, no. GNOME is far more efficient.

managing windows though

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/657/shelltile/ Done

What else?

One key access to documents, web search, calculator, open windows, files anywhere on my system... Yeah, no. GNOME is far more efficient.

Because of this new MS Windows standard Lenovo got rid off the 7 row key from their mater race keyboards.

Because of this new MS Windows standard Lenovo got rid off the 7 row key from their mater race keyboards.

MS Windows standard?

this is beautiful thank you

MS Windows standard?

Believe or not, it was a requirement from Microsoft to the hardware manufacturers to set dedicated hardware functions to the FN keys as primary. On GNOME they do the same as in any Windows version starting from 8.

Believe or not, it was a requirement from Microsoft to the hardware manufacturers to set dedicated hardware functions to the FN keys as primary. On GNOME they do the same as in any Windows version starting from 8.

I'm not talking about function keys.

I'm talking about the super/meta/win logo key.

The very same key that turns on wifi is the same on any Laptop follow this standard.

I'm talking about the super/meta/win logo key.

My bad.

and how to change root pwd

sudo passwd