In the terminal type ps aux | grep dnf

Thank you sir, I'll try ur advice tomorrow morning cux I don't have electricity now

Wroclaw?

whoopsie, looks like a neon crashed

Those snowflakes are huge!

Never seen anything like that

It's around 37°C ?

From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at> linux-foundation.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] Convert builin-mailinfo.c to use The Better String Library. Newsgroups: gmane.comp.version-control.git Date: 2007-09-06 17:50:28 GMT (2 years, 14 weeks, 16 hours and 36 minutes ago) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Dmitry Kakurin wrote: > > When I first looked at Git source code two things struck me as odd: > 1. Pure C as opposed to C++. No idea why. Please don't talk about portability, > it's BS. *YOU* are full of bullshit. C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of C were to do *nothing* but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use C. In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know Miles Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually true. I've come to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be in C++ over C is likely a programmer that I really *would* prefer to piss off, so that he doesn't come and screw up any project I'm involved with. C++ leads to really really bad design choices. You invariably start using the "nice" library features of the language like STL and Boost and other total and utter crap, that may "help" you program, but causes: - infinite amounts of pain when they don't work (and anybody who tells me that STL and especially Boost are stable and portable is just so full of BS that it's not even funny) - inefficient abstracted programming models where two years down the road you notice that some abstraction wasn't very efficient, but now all your code depends on all the nice object models around it, and you cannot fix it without rewriting your app. In other words, the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level and portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that are basically available in C. And limiting your project to C means that people don't screw that up, and also means that you get a lot of programmers that do actually understand low-level issues and don't screw things up with any idiotic "object model" crap. So I'm sorry, but for something like git, where efficiency was a primary objective, the "advantages" of C++ is just a huge mistake. The fact that we also piss off people who cannot see that is just a big additional advantage. If you want a VCS that is written in C++, go play with Monotone. Really. They use a "real database". They use "nice object-oriented libraries". They use "nice C++ abstractions". And quite frankly, as a result of all these design decisions that sound so appealing to some CS people, the end result is a horrible and unmaintainable mess. But I'm sure you'd like it more than git.

That's the point of having a channel

I love Linus letters !

s/Perl/Python/

I love Linus's rants.

I don't. I think that kind of behavior is why many people don't want to contribute to kernel, I know if I would have any patch I would leave it somewhere instead of sending them upstream because I would fear being yelled at.

Are you a SJW?

far from that

but still, if I would like to contribute my time to improve something and get that kind of treatment I would rather do something else.

I work with .net on Linux, it's working very fine, that's big misunderstanding to link between OS and specific Lang.

You get that kind of treatment if you don't do a good job or break something. GNOME Devs need someone like Linus, hopefully GNOME would improve a lot.

You get that kind of treatment if you don't do a good job or break something. GNOME Devs need someone like Linus, hopefully GNOME would improve a lot.

That's why there should be proper tests. Also there's a difference between belittling people and pointing errors in their ways

I work with .net on Linux, it's working very fine, that's big misunderstanding to link between OS and specific Lang.

Maybe that is the test.

Being an asshole is not a test, it's BS imho

I don't. I think that kind of behavior is why many people don't want to contribute to kernel, I know if I would have any patch I would leave it somewhere instead of sending them upstream because I would fear being yelled at.

Welp, that keeps BS out of the Kernel, and it works.

This behavior sounds more like to me like common decency and not being an asshole. The attitude in the kernel community has driven away a lot of talented developers because of that.

Political correctecness is cancer too.

Political correctecness is cancer too.

There's a difference between forced politcal correctness that is also BS, and just being a nice person

This is a very broad term that isn't well-defined. ;) This statement in itself seems brash given what we're talking about. There's a firm balance between someone being an asshole and not having quality work.

Just do a good job...

I would rather do a good job where any mistakes on my part would get pointed out in a cultural manner than where I would get that kind of treatment

Awesome. :) I've been following a lot of the cool developments going on with .NET in Fedora. Happy to see this community getting more involved with the open source community. We have potential to convert more people over to Linux yet. ;)

I'm not sure for near time.

I would rather do a good job where any mistakes on my part would get pointed out in a cultural manner than where I would get that kind of treatment

From people that does not follow the coding style to assholes breaking stuff.

This is exactly my point, I doubt people contributing their time and trying to improve things and failing deserve to be called "assholes".

Most of them are paid for that.

I get paid for programming. And if someone would consistently have rants like Linus in the code review, they would be fired.

I'm trying to annotate a screenshot to explain a UI, but not sure if there's something easier than Gimp or Inkscape I could use.

Pinta.

I get paid for programming. And if someone would consistently have rants like Linus in the code review, they would be fired.

Cool, will look into this, thanks.

Anyone know a good and easy way to annotate screenshots in Fedora?

If they got fired is because they suck at it.

I get paid for programming. And if someone would consistently have rants like Linus in the code review, they would be fired.

Suck at making the workplace toxic?

Unfortunately I don't think you're correct...

Okay, so tell me how it is in the company I work for :) No, but seriously, expertise is important, but if someone is breaking the workflow for many other people then it's not worth it

Okay, so tell me how it is in the company I work for :) No, but seriously, expertise is important, but if someone is breaking the workflow for many other people then it's not worth it

Linus has said before: "DON'T BREAK USERSPACE", that is the rule.

I would be 100% for yelling at people who would force the code into the repo and break things. But the code reviews are there for purpose, so you can point out the problems with the patch and that the problem won't reach the upstream

I know because I have a friend with similar behaviour. His life goal is becoming Linus and ranting 24/7