Lenovo is one of the manufacturers that do the shadiest tricks

Dell I would absolutely trust

http://boingboing.net/2015/11/23/not-just-lenovo-dell-ships-co.html

Okay.

Ugh, that stuff is for Windows software only, right?

Preinstalled.

I'm going to try to install fedora directly into a tablet

Wish me luck

So, it's dangerous to go alone.

Wish me luck

Best of luck. :)

I was thinking about getting a Lemote laptop, like RMS has, but getting one is practically impossible

So, it's dangerous to go alone.

Nice

Holy crap, I finally solved MPD + Samba + Bluetooth headset problem.

Just launched MPD on server, so no samba is necessary. Use ncmpcpp as a client on desktop and VLC to play from HTTP output. :D

Ugh, that stuff is for Windows software only, right?

Intel AMT

Takes any specially crafted cert for "Secure Setup & Deployment"

Even if disabled

OpenRISC

I've heard that there are some tools which are able to strip MT from microcode for some Intel CPUs

I've heard that there are some tools which are able to strip MT from microcode for some Intel CPUs

All Intel Cpus

That can be flashed

also I would really like a computer with another architecture, possibly OpenRISC, it's just that nobody really sells them :P

also I would really like a computer with another architecture, possibly OpenRISC, it's just that nobody really sells them :P

And there's no software for them

Some open source software is targeted for x86 even

So compiling won't do the trick alone

No wonder, as developers have only x86 or x86_64 to play with, with small addition of some ARMs lately

It's a shame...

arm-based chromebooks look actually interesting

Indeed

I just dislike ARM

Well

I like it more than x86, y'know

Way much more competition

But it's still a closed, license based architecture...

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/another-years-old-flaw-fixed-in-the-linux-kernel/

Ew Superfish :(

It only affected Windows users from the non business Lenovo line. If you use ThinkPad with Linux you are safe.

It only affected Windows users from the non business Lenovo line. If you use ThinkPad with Linux you are safe.

Would you trust a company that does that?

I wouldn't.

Linux or anything else.

Would you trust a company that does that?

>So you work for Dell and you audited everything, good to know...

>So you work for Dell and you audited everything, good to know...

Dell did not make Superfish

?

Should I care about comments on Security comming from a Macbook and MacOS user?

Do whatever you wish :P

Dell did not make Superfish

They might have their something something, given it is not FLOSS we cannot audit it. So we don't know if they have something like superfish installed in the XPS Dev Edition.

They might have their something something, given it is not FLOSS we cannot audit it. So we don't know if they have something like superfish installed in the XPS Dev Edition.

That is correct.

We do not know.

We do, however, know Lenovo is a very shady company.

:)

At least we are aware of it.

Dell did not make Superfish

http://boingboing.net/2015/11/23/not-just-lenovo-dell-ships-co.html

so, yeah.

http://boingboing.net/2015/11/23/not-just-lenovo-dell-ships-co.html

Holy Moly.

http://boingboing.net/2015/11/23/not-just-lenovo-dell-ships-co.html

Wow. A certificate.

Wow. A certificate.

are you serious? Do you realize what does a root certificate mean?

I don't care about trojans and spywares preinstalled since I use Fedora.

are you serious? Do you realize what does a root certificate mean?

I am. I do.

It still is not Superfish.

in my book it's shady enough

Don't buy Dell then. But especially don't buy Lenovo.

the real issue is that there are not many companies left to buy from

Removing Lenovo leaves many options

Asus and Dell are good choices.

MSI is poor build quality but they don't do Superfish

I'm sure you'll manage.

I have to admit that I have a HP and I'm pretty satisfied with it

I've had good luck with Lenovo recently. I wipe laptops as soon as I receive them to remove whatever crap the manufacturer puts on there, so I'm not worried about root cert stuff

ERROR: S client not available

Hola I wouldn't buy personally. Don't like their build quality.

I've had pretty bad luck with HP; they fall apart

But at least not Superfish :P

My Lenovo Yoga 900 is indestructible.

higher-end HPs are actually pretty decent when it comes to build quality

I've had good luck with Lenovo recently. I wipe laptops as soon as I receive them to remove whatever crap the manufacturer puts on there, so I'm not worried about root cert stuff

What about what you can't remove, like hardware backdoors

:P

What about what you can't remove, like hardware backdoors

Everything has those. :P

Everything has those. :P

Nah.

Yah.

See: vPro ;)

AMD has vPro?

Lol

?

Also not all Intel chips have vPro.

So... Nah

Yeah, my current one doesn't

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-039-s-Reply-to-Intel-vPro-50320.shtml

But I pretty much just assume whatever I'm using has hardware backdoors. I have no way to prove that it doesn't.

But I pretty much just assume whatever I'm using has hardware backdoors. I have no way to prove that it doesn't.

That's smart.

But buying laptops from a company that intentionally installs malware...

Not so smart.

You now have obvious proof they do stuff.

Maybe the rest do. Or maybe they don't.

I have to agree

Lenovo certainly does.

They've all been caught doing that at one point in time.

They've all been caught doing that at one point in time.

All?

HP's had their scandals.

HP, Lenovo.

"All" might be a bit too inclusive, but most of the major ones

Dell's had theirs...