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Shukhrat
06.03.2017
17:23:48
and one more time

Have somebody use Fedora with KDE?

Kohane
06.03.2017
17:24:19
I did, but long ago, so my experience is probably useless.

Shukhrat
06.03.2017
17:24:48
You are using GNOME now?

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Eduard
06.03.2017
17:27:36
the Gtk applications are ugly in plasma
Normally, yes. And backwards is the same. The recommendation, if you care about it, is to tune the framework used (Qt or GTK+) to match them with the DE

Colmito
06.03.2017
17:30:49
Eduard
06.03.2017
17:33:58
I do is windows without frames, theme breeze and I integrate the color of the frames
Good to know that you can do something like that. For Qt apps in GTK+ DEs I recommend the use of the automated tools like qtcurve, qtconfifg, qt5ct

Sadin
06.03.2017
17:50:17
Have somebody use Fedora with KDE?
Fedora's KDE spin is solid. You wont find much of a difference at all from manjaro KDE minux preinstalled apps. Switching Linux Distros is one thing cause some things like package management change. But its all linux and its the same Desktop environment. Both distros are polished and you should have no issue out of the box installing.

Sadin
06.03.2017
17:56:59
Hey no problem!

If you do decide to give fedora a go, youve got us here as well should you have questions :)

Obviously ??

Eduard
06.03.2017
18:10:02
I have a question for IRC managers: limnoria or supybot?

I'm not sure, because supybot supose to be part of limnoria package, but supybot-meetbot conflics with limnoria, so I'm lost

Brian
06.03.2017
18:13:48
I have a question for IRC managers: limnoria or supybot?
I am not sure how many folks here are IRC admins - you may find asking on IRC gets better results.

Eduard
06.03.2017
18:14:13
Fair point

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Eduard
06.03.2017
18:14:16
Thanks

I am not sure how many folks here are IRC admins - you may find asking on IRC gets better results.
Well, in #fedora-irc you are the only one. I will ask in #fedora, maybe someone there can point me in the rigth direction

Brian
06.03.2017
18:19:28
Well, in #fedora-irc you are the only one. I will ask in #fedora, maybe someone there can point me in the rigth direction
heh, forgot my client was there. There is usally an op in #fedora so that is a start. You may also wish to ping the package maintainers

Michał
06.03.2017
18:41:24
I want to create an encrypted container and store my files on Dropbox in that container. Is veracrypt a good idea, or should I go with something else? Portability across OSes is a must, it also would be nice to be able to mount that file and use it like a removable medium instead of packing/unpakcing (as I was considering using 7z instead)

O
06.03.2017
18:45:51
Michał uhm you can use tar.gz + LUKS ?

Michał
06.03.2017
18:46:18
Michał uhm you can use tar.gz + LUKS ?
Would I be able to use it on MacOSX and Windows as well?

O
06.03.2017
18:48:01
One my close asked the same question for Windows, I found some stuff but I never tried , And for OSX I don't know about it

Michał
06.03.2017
18:49:11
https://cryptomator.org/
Looks interesting, but I was thinking about having one big encrypted file which I would be able to store on S3 or some other backups. But I guess I will check cryptomator out

also: how it is better than VeraCrypt?

O
06.03.2017
18:49:56
Vera is using TrueCrypt and truecrypt is already died ?

Michał
06.03.2017
18:50:35
Vera is like a fork of TrueCrypt - they took TC's source code and seem to be improving it

天荣
06.03.2017
18:50:42
also: how it is better than VeraCrypt?
VeraCrypt is a single file in the form of an encrypted virtual drive

Every little change you make needs to reupload the entire encrypted drive

Cryptomator encrypts individual files

Michał
06.03.2017
18:51:55
I'm fine with one big file being uploaded around every time I change something as I don't use dropbox client on mac anyway, and I plan to move out from it on Linux as well, and use some third party clients instead

so I would sync "by hand"

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Michał
06.03.2017
18:53:01
but cryptomator looks nice, I'm going to check it out :)

天荣
06.03.2017
18:53:27
You don't need to use Dropbox for Cryptomator

Works on any cloud storage.

Imagine an 8 GB virtual drive being uploaded back and forth every time.

Even if you made a small change to a 4 kb file, it would need to be reuploaded entirely

Michał
06.03.2017
18:54:58
I was planning on having a container no bigger than 200MB, but it's not a problem

I'll check cryptomator, it looks promising

Kohane
06.03.2017
19:36:45
Leaving the distro jokes, you can give it a try in a VM, no?
Or using live media, like a DVD or a USB stick.

You are using GNOME now?
Yes, I'm using Gnome Shell now.

Justin
06.03.2017
19:38:51


天荣
06.03.2017
19:39:46
Oh please ?

Kohane
06.03.2017
19:39:55
Good to know that you can do something like that. For Qt apps in GTK+ DEs I recommend the use of the automated tools like qtcurve, qtconfifg, qt5ct
I always had more problems with GTK programmes in KDE (in the sense of looking ugly) than KDE programmes in GTK environments.

Denis
06.03.2017
19:40:07
So cool!

Kohane
06.03.2017
19:40:45
Mini grissini tradizionale! Gotta love this

O
06.03.2017
19:41:29
That's why I'm using vim+python ? (Keeeping happy always) ?

Michael
06.03.2017
19:41:49
HappyVI(M)

Sadin
06.03.2017
19:44:39
lol

Tobias?
06.03.2017
20:14:36
Vim just broke up with me

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Justin
06.03.2017
20:19:35
So cool!
Saw those at the grocery store, maybe I should have bought it just because ?

It seems like this entire city might just love Vim though, I saw this last week:



Abdel G.
06.03.2017
21:18:35
lol

Subliminal messages?

Tobias?
06.03.2017
21:57:13
Understandable tough

Of course, as long as you are not a devilish emacs worshipper

XD

Kohane
06.03.2017
21:59:06
It seems like this entire city might just love Vim though, I saw this last week:
Where are you that? Looks like a great place to live... full of VIM fans! ?

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Erisson
07.03.2017
00:08:07
Good night folks

Someone from Canada to talk for job hunting

warmemch
07.03.2017
00:50:30
hi, how install telegram-desktop in fedora 25

Indra
07.03.2017
02:15:14
hi, how install telegram-desktop in fedora 25
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/youssefmsourani/telegram-desktop/

O
07.03.2017
05:49:19
It's kinda useless to use "copr" version of telegram because , telegram itself has own "updater" and total file number are 2 binaries plus telegram create an automatic "desktop" file so It's pretty much ended up some result. Also "updater" faster then "copr" repos (which is coming from telegram server itself) :/

O
07.03.2017
06:01:58
so ?

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:02:50
so ?
So if one of those libs would have a vulnerability, you'll have to wait untill Telegram crew would compile a new binary instead of downloading patched lib itself.

O
07.03.2017
06:03:24
What if we have in our own one ?

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O
07.03.2017
06:03:33
Which is possible too ?

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:03:46
What if we have in our own one ?
Then it will be patched soon and TG probably will have same vulnerability

And it would anyway be fixed faster if you don't use precompiled TG from official site.

O
07.03.2017
06:05:22
I don't think TG would be that late too since they're pretty active and adding more and more features,security etc .

It's still same result

Fedora can be late too or TG can be late too, It's all human element

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:05:50
I'd rather rely on Fedora maintainers and developers crew in that.

O
07.03.2017
06:06:59
If you don't trust TG in the first place sorry but what's point the using that ?

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:07:22
O
07.03.2017
06:07:30
How do you know ?

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:07:31
Therefore, I don't.

O
07.03.2017
06:07:42
Did you check all libs is "outdated" ?

Gwindor
07.03.2017
06:08:06
Did you check all libs is "outdated" ?
They have a list of libraries used.

My system has them newer.

O
07.03.2017
06:09:01
newer never means "more seucre" in fedora point That "never" version also can have another security issue too,

So you can't completely trust either that or TG

Still human element

O
07.03.2017
06:09:33
Maybe not

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