though i dont see why i couldnt use ps/2 why did we switch from it anyways?

I personally love the fact this thing has zero USB-A ports. Retrocompatibility sucks, look at Windows.

Can you run a live Linux at least? Just curiosity.

Can you run a live Linux at least? Just curiosity.

I don't think so. But I'll give it a try.

though i dont see why i couldnt use ps/2 why did we switch from it anyways?

You're kidding, right?

i find those things more important than the changes with usb-c

More or less, we move forward.

Let's leave ancient technology in the trash where it belongs.

I don't think so. But I'll give it a try.

Looking forward to know the results.

You're kidding, right?

i'm not, actually. I can use ps/2 mice and keyboards just fine.

I personally love the fact this thing has zero USB-A ports. Retrocompatibility sucks, look at Windows.

I mean there's a reason we use Fedora.

We demand the latest and the greatest.

Exactly!

Otherwise we would be on Debian, right?

Let's leave ancient technology in the trash where it belongs.

or in a museum, rather..?

or in a museum, rather..?

That, sure. My house is no museum :p

Otherwise we would be on Debian, right?

Or Ubuntu LOL

That, sure. My house is no museum :p

yeah. i'd prefer for it to be preserved instead of throwing it in the trash, is my point.

Or Ubuntu LOL

?

i'm not, actually. I can use ps/2 mice and keyboards just fine.

This is interesting. I can't. Even if I have the ports, that I don't of course.

yeah. i'd prefer for it to be preserved instead of throwing it in the trash, is my point.

Oh. You're the RRR kind of guy. Good for you then. Better for the environment.

yeah. i'd prefer for it to be preserved instead of throwing it in the trash, is my point.

What about recycling ?

That's why I purchased this machine. This machine is going to last me many years before I dispose of it.

What about recycling ?

recycling is alright. throwing stuff in the trash isnt recycling...not often, anyway

That's why I always buy the latest, it tends to age better.

That's why I purchased this machine. This machine is going to last me many years before I dispose of it.

many years? good luck with that lol apple's gonna kill it in 5

That's why I always buy the latest, it tends to age better.

Not necessarily. I bought a laptop, quite old TBH, and it still works perfectly. Its only issue is the weight because I haven't a backpack with me right now. But for the rest, is awesome.

many years? good luck with that lol apple's gonna kill it in 5

I still see people with Mac Pros and MacBooks with Core 2 Duo CPUs.

Macs are not iPhones. Macs age better than any other computer.

Well built and long lasting. It's simply a fact.

Not necessarily. I bought a laptop, quite old TBH, and it still works perfectly. Its only issue is the weight because I haven't a backpack with me right now. But for the rest, is awesome.

I mean, of course. You can work on a Pentium IV today if you wanted.

It just makes more sense for me to buy modern stuff.

I still see people with Mac Pros and MacBooks with Core 2 Duo CPUs.

woah, nice. i've heard that if you keep using os x or whatever apple is shipping it with, eventually they'll slow it down with updates

they're probably not using macOS or OSX

woah, nice. i've heard that if you keep using os x or whatever apple is shipping it with, eventually they'll slow it down with updates

We are techy nerds here. We don't take what the company gives us.

We push our machines to the limit.

Not necessarily. I bought a laptop, quite old TBH, and it still works perfectly. Its only issue is the weight because I haven't a backpack with me right now. But for the rest, is awesome.

lol i run fedora on my tiny Asus X501U, too, it hasn't got a DVD drive, but it's so tiny so i put it in my backpack or in my bag, it fits everywhere xD

If Apple ever drops my Mac, I'll switch to Linux in an instant, or hack macOS to install a newer version

but still too expensive for their specifications

but still too expensive for their specifications

Sure. Quality costs money.

If Apple ever drops my Mac, I'll switch to Linux in an instant, or hack macOS to install a newer version

of course. fight the system

Macs are not only CPUs but solid computers with great Apple support.

Yes, they have a good build quality, but still too much

A 24/7 phone line costs money you know? :p

Yes, they have a good build quality, but still too much

I don't think it's too much. Not for me.

If only there was actual competition...

Sure. Quality costs money.

uhm, I think that MacBooks'cost is bigger because of the Apple on the back of the screen, the "logo", the producer is the most influencer of the price..

That's the point, I'm not talking about you or me, I'm talking in the medium

Based on their profit margin, I'd say it's a bit much. :P

uhm, I think that MacBooks'cost is bigger because of the Apple on the back of the screen, the "logo", the producer is the most influencer of the price..

I guess that is true. To each their own I say.

But that doesn't keep me from using Apple hardware for some things.

A shiny half-eaten apple shouldn't cost that much

considering they cost like 90% less to produce

A shiny half-eaten apple shouldn't cost that much

But it's shiny! :<

But it's shiny! :<

I don't really like it, i think that a clear back is clever, like the XiaoMi Mi Notebook one..

I was joking :P

I mean, of course. You can work on a Pentium IV today if you wanted.

No, well... not THAT old haha

No, well... not THAT old haha

HAHAHAHA

If only manufacturers made well built computers without Windows...

The touchpad on this thing is incredible for once.

System76 is kind of OK but IMHO ugly and bad designed.

If only manufacturers made well built computers without Windows...

best solution for us geeks, buy parts yourself and build it

Then there's Dell, which is kind of OK too I guess...

30% or cheaper

best solution for us geeks, buy parts yourself and build it

I make my own desktop, but GL building your own laptop

Unless your dad is the CEO of Lenovo or something lol

I make my own desktop, but GL building your own laptop

doable, if you got time :P

doable, if you got time :P

Not as good as a MBP IMHO

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Trackpad will suck ass most of the time.

lol i run fedora on my tiny Asus X501U, too, it hasn't got a DVD drive, but it's so tiny so i put it in my backpack or in my bag, it fits everywhere xD

Yeah, well, that's a thing, I need a somewhat big screen as I do a lot of photography & artistic work. I used netbooks in the past though.

I actually prefer the trackpad to using a mouse... Imagine how amazing this thing is.

Gestures, precision, tactile feedback and quality it's a 10/10 for me regarding the trackpad.

I actually prefer the trackpad to using a mouse... Imagine how amazing this thing is.

depends on the user, I for sure hate the trackpad, since I have to deal with design a lot

Oh. And size. Man this thing is HUGE ?

depends on the user, I for sure hate the trackpad, since I have to deal with design a lot

I do design and the trackpad has a few tricks up its sleeve. Such as Force Touch and tactile feedback.

For example when snapping to a grid, the trackpad nudges when you're snapped.

best solution for us geeks, buy parts yourself and build it

I don't think this is possible if you mean to have a laptop. If it's a desktop then is perfect and I did it myself long ago.

yes, building a laptop is almost impossible

I don't think this is possible if you mean to have a laptop. If it's a desktop then is perfect and I did it myself long ago.

same here, but with laptop it's hard to find some OS-free notebooks -.-

you guys know about Purism?

yes, building a laptop is almost impossible

exactly :c

Then there's Dell, which is kind of OK too I guess...

I'm using Dell right now. And I used Toshiba last year. Both are great.

I'm waiting on the Surface Book 2

same here, but with laptop it's hard to find some OS-free notebooks -.-

That depends on the market and the country mainly. Nevertheless, you can always buy a normal laptop and wipe it.

That depends on the market and the country mainly. Nevertheless, you can always buy a normal laptop and wipe it.

yes, but you're gonna pay for the Windows License... -.-

yes, but you're gonna pay for the Windows License... -.-

I don't think the OEMs pay much for Windows

I'm waiting on the Surface Book 2

I might have bought it if Microsoft even cared about Spain. Seems they don't want my money. This is something I also like about Apple: you have their entire lineup available. In Spain, no Surface Book, only the Surface.

That's not really where MS makes its money

would you buy smth like this? https://puri.sm/shop/librem-13/ IMO it is TOO much

yes, but you're gonna pay for the Windows License... -.-

You can ask for a refund.

Dell does refund. Asus too. Dunno about the rest.

yes, but you're gonna pay for the Windows License... -.-

Again, this depends on countries. I never paid a license and yet that all my laptops came with Windows. If you want, you can buy second hand. Then you won't pay for the license.

I might have bought it if Microsoft even cared about Spain. Seems they don't want my money. This is something I also like about Apple: you have their entire lineup available. In Spain, no Surface Book, only the Surface.

Regardless I think it would have been a mistake. I really think the MBP is the best laptop right now.

So thanks Microsoft ?

Not the most powerful, though :P

(by far)

If you need to do anything too intsensive, a MBP won't cut it

Not the most powerful, though :P

I have an X99 5930K hexa core with 64 GB of RAM.

I think I'll manage.

In your MBP?