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Adliano
16.11.2016
21:17:40
César
16.11.2016
21:36:51
Hi

Why does Fedora use Gnome by default and not KDE?

Michael
16.11.2016
21:51:37
Why does Fedora use Gnome by default and not KDE?
There are so much "Spins", with different DEs. You can download the one you prefer! I have the KDE Spin, but I've also used the GNOME standard spin.

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César
16.11.2016
21:54:13
But, why was Gnome chosen for workstation. What advantages is this against Plasma?

What are the technical advantages of Gnome versus Plasma?

Dani~
16.11.2016
22:08:30
the same that Plasma against Gnome

I mean, it's synergy

Fedora Core used gnome1 as default, Fedora Gnome2, so it's logical the the "next one" was gnome3

and then, there're the spins

César
16.11.2016
22:14:06
I understand the spins, but my question is whether Gnome has any technical advantage for which Fedora uses it in workstation.

Michel Alexandre
16.11.2016
22:15:33
there's the regular release cycle, that helps from the release management point of view - but from a technical perspective I'm not sure

Kohane
16.11.2016
22:16:11
I think @LyckanKGB question is about why was Gnome chosen at first.

Michel Alexandre
16.11.2016
22:18:57
could it date back to the licensing problem Qt initially had then? I'm pretty sure Red Hat Linux started shipping GNOME back when that was the case, and Fedora is its successor

wow I feel old now

Kohane
16.11.2016
22:21:12
LOL

Yes, I vaguely remember seeing related to QT and its licence... But that dates before I started using Linux.

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Wesley
16.11.2016
22:41:33
What are the technical advantages of Gnome versus Plasma?
KDE had licensing a problem back in the day

(■_■¬)
17.11.2016
03:22:42
Holy Moly: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/11/16/1548236/microsoft-joins-the-linux-foundation

Damian
17.11.2016
03:25:55
Holy Moly: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/11/16/1548236/microsoft-joins-the-linux-foundation
If trumpets can be president Billy and Linus can be friends, this century is very strange.

Robby
17.11.2016
03:28:31
they're paying $500k for the privilege

It's all about money

(■_■¬)
17.11.2016
03:29:03
I hope they don't throw code in our beloved kernel.

Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
17.11.2016
03:29:13
actually they did

support for Linux on HyperV ;)

(■_■¬)
17.11.2016
03:29:54
Damian
17.11.2016
03:32:02
In some conferences they say: microsoft loves linux. I'm just want to see the Richie's point of view.

[Anonymous]
17.11.2016
03:32:58
Thank you everyone for your valuable suggestions and warm wishes???

Dhanesh
17.11.2016
04:33:02
Welcome to the Fedora world @pramodch !

Welcome to the Fedora world @pramodch !
You may join the Fedora India group too. https://telegram.me/fedoraindia

Tobias?
17.11.2016
08:02:21
But, why was Gnome chosen for workstation. What advantages is this against Plasma?
The Developers know the Ins and Outs of gnome, its easier to extend and integrate new Services, its GTK by default and thus allows the much more common gtk applications to run with less libs to install and to be styled and adapted easier.... Fastmoving Development that now has seen compatibility for wayland, a constant stream of bugfixes, many many user extensions and a full development toolkit for em to make it easy to distribute or offer new functionality....

Kde is nice but even the Fedora Kde Spin is a bug-ridden Mess of a Gui. And unless one hates gnome to try and be cool because one heard it sucks Gnome makes for a really nice Desktop

Greg
17.11.2016
08:07:08
Albert
17.11.2016
09:01:16
@Tobias4X I decided to remove Adobe's repository completed as we both agreed on last time we talked in this group. The problem now is that I've done a regrettable thing: I confused core Fedora's repositories while I was at it. Specifically, I deleted this repository using the suggested command rm /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo. How can I retrace my steps or readd the repository in question?

This is the _right_ command I just ran a couple of seconds ago. rm /etc/yum.repos.d/adobe-linux-x86_64.repo.

Kohane
17.11.2016
09:37:29
I hope they don't throw code in our beloved kernel.
Of course they will. But I see no problems there. Their code will be checked as happens with everyone else's, if anything wrong or strange is found will soon be fixed. "When many eyes are watching all errors are obvious"

The Developers know the Ins and Outs of gnome, its easier to extend and integrate new Services, its GTK by default and thus allows the much more common gtk applications to run with less libs to install and to be styled and adapted easier.... Fastmoving Development that now has seen compatibility for wayland, a constant stream of bugfixes, many many user extensions and a full development toolkit for em to make it easy to distribute or offer new functionality....
This is a synergy. If you have more people working on it and an enterprise sending money, of course development will only improve. And because it goes faster they keep backing the project. On the other hand, KDE Spin is supported by one maybe two persons. Obviously it won't be that well developed as the said person also has a job and a life to take care of.

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Tobias?
17.11.2016
09:43:17
@Tobias4X I decided to remove Adobe's repository completed as we both agreed on last time we talked in this group. The problem now is that I've done a regrettable thing: I confused core Fedora's repositories while I was at it. Specifically, I deleted this repository using the suggested command rm /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo. How can I retrace my steps or readd the repository in question?
cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo [updates-testing] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Test Updates failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/ metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-testing-f$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 metadata_expire=6h gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch skip_if_unavailable=False [updates-testing-debuginfo] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Test Updates Debug failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/$releasever/$basearch/debug/ metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-testing-debug-f$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 metadata_expire=6h gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch skip_if_unavailable=False [updates-testing-source] name=Fedora $releasever - Test Updates Source failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/$releasever/SRPMS/ metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-testing-source-f$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 metadata_expire=6h gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch skip_if_unavailable=False

It is not that much to worry about tough as testing isnt a repo that should be active in general

Dani~
17.11.2016
09:44:59
I hope they don't throw code in our beloved kernel.
They were trowing a lot of it I the latest 2 years

Now they will not only throw code but money

[Anonymous]
17.11.2016
09:46:03
@Dhanesh95 @JustDevZero @MichaelMessaggi @adliano @ampotty Thank you guys!!!!! ?

Kohane
17.11.2016
10:00:11
Now they will not only throw code but money
That's an improvement from my point of view

pedro
17.11.2016
10:04:49
good morning, legends

Kohane
17.11.2016
10:26:41
Good morning. Guten morgen. Bom dia. Buen dia. Доброе утро

Wesley
17.11.2016
15:11:58
QT apps have big controls

Dhanesh
17.11.2016
15:15:57
Welcome @injectorX !

Tobias?
17.11.2016
15:16:33
Tobias?
17.11.2016
15:16:44
completely controllable by shortcuts

or, in emergency, autohiding OSD

Wesley
17.11.2016
15:17:05
dnf install mpv
Same thing with openshot

Tobias?
17.11.2016
15:17:37
Same thing with openshot
kdenlive for a more powerful video cutting application beyond the simplest of simple features

Wesley
17.11.2016
15:19:02
kdenlive for a more powerful video cutting application beyond the simplest of simple features
I know but what really is the problem for this big dpi display in QT apps, I did a clean install of fedora 24 kde and then I installed vlc and it was still there

Anybody?

Samuele
17.11.2016
16:24:54
Have you scaled?

In some ways?

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Mira
17.11.2016
16:25:51
Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:26:09
You should not post your Number in Public groups

Especially in one as wide as this

Anxhelo
17.11.2016
16:26:49
does anyone know how to install etherpad on a webserver? I got my own webpages, and wanted to install etherpad and add a subdomain like pad.surname. smth

Anxhelo
17.11.2016
16:27:54
Not that knowledgeable about that. Apache

Dani~
17.11.2016
16:28:04
https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/wiki/How-to-put-Etherpad-Lite-behind-a-reverse-Proxy <--- apache / nginx

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:28:15
does anyone know how to install etherpad on a webserver? I got my own webpages, and wanted to install etherpad and add a subdomain like pad.surname. smth
setup nodejs to listen on :80, or , if you have an exisiting setup, use HAproxy or nginx to make a new internal srver you redirect poeple to

Anxhelo
17.11.2016
16:28:40
Thank you guys, I'll try to accomplish that

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:29:06
NODEJS ON 80
Is it not safe to use a njs setup to handle web requests?

in that case, why would anyone use it

Dani~
17.11.2016
16:29:21
as for my opinion, not at all

but if it's going to be the only one stuff...

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:29:48
The million of React/Angular installs...

XD

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Dani~
17.11.2016
16:30:11
excuse me, i'm going to flip some tables...

xDD

Seriously i don't want you to think I hate JS, but I hate it

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:30:56
dont worry me too

atleast nodejs

Dani~
17.11.2016
16:32:07
the people get used to use frameworks so much

that they even forget how to develop

just look at isArray or lpad please

Tobias?
17.11.2016
16:33:12
dude i am a php dev so - each his own

Wesley
17.11.2016
17:13:30
sangram
17.11.2016
17:50:49
https://telegram.me/joinchat/DiTbk0F9NF_5uHzguY4iCw

Vitaly
17.11.2016
17:51:32
Spam detected.

Tobias?
17.11.2016
17:52:33
https://telegram.me/joinchat/DiTbk0F9NF_5uHzguY4iCw
Stop. Nobody likes it, its annoying as fuck and you did not ask permission of the Admins to post it here.

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