Fedora networking is fully done by network manager.

It's a mediocre thinkpad and it's massively overpriced

Yeah , I actually noticed you can find computer with the higher hardware for much less ?I had not seen the subreddit

well, thank you guys, i will get a new laptop then

every command with `nmcli`is persistent?

Yes, you can use nmtui to have a graphical interface to make it easier.

Fedora networking is fully done by network manager.

ok! Thank you

:P

Yeah , I actually noticed you can find computer with the higher hardware for much less ?I had not seen the subreddit

I could get an X270 For that price, or a T470, or a T440p which would all be much better options if I wanted a modern thinkpad

I should make a wiki what to avoid when buying laptops for the intent of running linux. xD

I think that's a great idea! Let me know if you put it in practice.

Or cockpit which fully uis it via web and then un-does things if you cant connect to it afterward.

With the XX70's you'd still have > 1 Year of manafacturer warranty

I could get an X270 For that price, or a T470, or a T440p which would all be much better options if I wanted a modern thinkpad

Show me where you can get an unblemished x270 refurb for 230 eurobucks.

Isn't it good?

AFAIK it's very good.

I dare you.

Without any shady business on it.

Show me where you can get an unblemished x270 refurb for 230 eurobucks.

I'm talking about the T440s

Which is 444 Without an SSD.

Which is frankly... disgusting

I'm talking about the T440s

Then the magical x270 for 400 bucks.

I'm talking about the T440s

What? Mine was 450€ and with a couple of things went up to 490€ And that was the cheapest.

444 was with full 10 finger multitouch.

Of which the ssd version is 500 bucks, but yes you can simply put an existing or cheaper one in yourself.

I could get an X270 For that price, or a T470, or a T440p which would all be much better options if I wanted a modern thinkpad

Yeah I know! I noticed that in the subreddit there are so many low prices

Of which the ssd version is 500 bucks, but yes you can simply put an existing or cheaper one in yourself.

Meanwhile my X270 With the 1080P IPS Screen, 8GB RAM and 512GB M.2 SSD Was 450 GBP, 500 EUR in the end with 2 Years left of manafacturer warranty

444 was with full 10 finger multitouch.

Mine was slightly over that price, but way better specs.

Yeah I know! I noticed that in the subreddit there are so many low prices

"No shady business" "Officially registered seller"

Meanwhile my X270 With the 1080P IPS Screen, 8GB RAM and 512GB M.2 SSD Was 450 GBP, 500 EUR in the end with 2 Years left of manafacturer warranty

Well, show us that magical place.

"No shady business" "Officially registered seller"

oh lmao

Meanwhile my X270 With the 1080P IPS Screen, 8GB RAM and 512GB M.2 SSD Was 450 GBP, 500 EUR in the end with 2 Years left of manafacturer warranty

Where and how did you buy it?

Well, show us that magical place.

eBay, I'll find the exact link, a business was selling them from their own stock since they were upgrading, I'd personally argue that 2 Years warranty with Lenovo 1 Day on-site and PayPal Protection is better than dealing with Luxnote, no matter how good they are.

eBay, I'll find the exact link, a business was selling them from their own stock since they were upgrading, I'd personally argue that 2 Years warranty with Lenovo 1 Day on-site and PayPal Protection is better than dealing with Luxnote, no matter how good they are.

On ebay germany used x270 models make ~800 bucks or more.

On ebay germany used x270 models make ~800 bucks or more.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X270-12-5-FHD-I7-6600u-2-6ghz-8gb-RAM-512gb-SSD-Win10pro/17014251621?iid=142677063051&_trksid=p2047675.m4097.l9055

You'd have to have extreme luck for others to not notice an offer that good and bidding.

There's the link, not that it's useful

You'd have to have extreme luck for others to not notice an offer that good and bidding.

They had about 30 Laptops, they got noticed and it stayed up for around a week

They had about 30 Laptops, they got noticed and it stayed up for around a week

Again, luck.

Luxnote is consistently well priced, not luck based, and for 333 bucks you get a t440s with fullhd multitouch.

You can add ram/ssd on your own for cheaper to that.

So you are comparing utter luck at that specific time to a consistent refurb seller of leaasing returns. (In the uk no less, where thinkpad interest might be different)

Yeah thats entirely fair.

Luxnote is consistently well priced, not luck based, and for 333 bucks you get a t440s with fullhd multitouch.

But then you own a laptop which I'd say is a hunk of junk because you take away a lot of the benefits of a thinkpad in exchange for a touchscreen, a slimmer laptop and design choices

But then you own a laptop which I'd say is a hunk of junk because you take away a lot of the benefits of a thinkpad in exchange for a touchscreen, a slimmer laptop and design choices

Which is why the non-touchscreen variant is even cheaper

So you are comparing utter luck at that specific time to a consistent refurb seller of leaasing returns. (In the uk no less, where thinkpad interest might be different)

Except I see all of this happening consistently, plenty of people getting their T430's for the same price as mine

Do NOT compare UTTER LUCK with a consistent seller.

I happen to do a lot of laptop searching and sending links to people so I quite frequently see what sells

Do NOT compare UTTER LUCK with a consistent seller.

Except you're comparing the ones which haven't sold

Luxnote, for where its located (germany) is very, very comparable to the prices you get on ebay.

Except you're comparing the ones which haven't sold

These usually are sold at roughly these prices, consistently.

Luxnote sells at »»common«« ebay prices.

Again, if you want to play the ebay game, from private sellers with random shipping, no idea where your money ends up or if the machine is even legally on there, that is fine.

But if you want to consistently know where your machine comes from, that its in good shape and that it works - well, theres a difference.

I happen to do a lot of laptop searching and sending links to people so I quite frequently see what sells

I happen to do a lot of laptop searching too, and Ebay is always like a luckpot, you may find an awesome piece or lose all your money. There is no certainty whatsoever.

I happen to do a lot of laptop searching too, and Ebay is always like a luckpot, you may find an awesome piece or lose all your money. There is no certainty whatsoever.

There is absolute certainty, if you cannot lose your money unless you're unwilling to make a return claim, there is literally zero reason for you to ever lose out money as a buyer

Two can play at that game.

Again, if you want to play the ebay game, from private sellers with random shipping, no idea where your money ends up or if the machine is even legally on there, that is fine.

You don't even know if it works for that matter, and good luck to complain if a problem arise.

Again, you are comparing luck (and i am happy you had it) to consistent results.

Two can play at that game.

ebay extremely heavily favors the buyer

Again, you are comparing luck (and i am happy you had it) to consistent results.

Except I consistently have luck, so is it really luck?

ebay extremely heavily favors the buyer

to the point that sellers complain about it

Except I consistently have luck, so is it really luck?

Because you consistently are on the lookout.

Others arent.

Exactly.

Others want a laptop. NOW, and want to return it if shipping damaged it.

Others arent.

Yeah, and I happen to send links to people who happen to want or need a new laptop because I'm always searching

Others want a laptop. NOW, and want to return it if shipping damaged it.

Why would you want to return it when you can just not return it and get a refund anyway?

Because that's how it works with eBay quite commonly.

Luxnote has special thinkpad shipping equipment with strong, special layout air packaging.

Because that's how it works with eBay quite commonly.

Nice for abusing the system

Others want a laptop. NOW, and want to return it if shipping damaged it.

Or the product sent doesn't match what is offered, which I saw happening as well.

Yeah, and I happen to send links to people who happen to want or need a new laptop because I'm always searching

Then do that next time.

You didnt two times already, where now others have luxnote refurbs at home, happily.

Guys , I need an advice. If I wanted to get a thinkpad with Intel Core i5 , 500GB HDD and 8GB ram , which price would you say it's a bargain?

And thanks to their awesome support i'll continue to recommend them. They help you every step of getting it to you and back if any problems arise.

Guys , I need an advice. If I wanted to get a thinkpad with Intel Core i5 , 500GB HDD and 8GB ram , which price would you say it's a bargain?

i5 which generation? :P

You didnt two times already, where now others have luxnote refurbs at home, happily.

I mean, I did and you brought up the exact same points to try and convince them, if I remember correclty Kohane bought hers from a seller on Amazon right? Then proceeded to have quite a few battery related issues before trading it with a co-worker and who else?

Besides you often buy laptops that have lesser RAM or no storage because you're plenty of spare parts. That's not something that happens to everyone, @TheGamingBarrel

Nice for abusing the system

"Hey shipping this machine costs literally 50% Of the entire item, it doesn't work and you won't make money on it and you have to pay the shipping, how about we just keep it here?"

i5 which generation? :P

I don't know , just let it be a good and fast one xD

Guys , I need an advice. If I wanted to get a thinkpad with Intel Core i5 , 500GB HDD and 8GB ram , which price would you say it's a bargain?

That's a nice machine, give me a moment to check please.

Besides you often buy laptops that have lesser RAM or no storage because you're plenty of spare parts. That's not something that happens to everyone, @TheGamingBarrel

Then I'll use the exact same logic that Tobias was using, buy it for cheaper than it costs on Luxnote and swap it yourself because it's a basically zero knowledge task

I don't know , just let it be a good and fast one xD

What is your definition of fast.

What is your definition of fast.

A good processor which is not shit

"Hey shipping this machine costs literally 50% Of the entire item, it doesn't work and you won't make money on it and you have to pay the shipping, how about we just keep it here?"

Who says this?

Then I'll use the exact same logic that Tobias was using, buy it for cheaper than it costs on Luxnote and swap it yourself because it's a basically zero knowledge task

And risk having a broken machine, it not sent at all and and and.

That's a nice machine, give me a moment to check please.

Sure!

Who says this?

I"ve had that conversation quite a few times with companies selling their stuff, ending up in me getting a refund and me keeping the item with them accepting and everything being within the eBay guidelines

A good processor which is not shit

Well, you can get an old i5 sucking 45W in the old series, then they switched to 15W which reduced performance up to their very latest.

Well, you can get an old i5 sucking 45W in the old series, then they switched to 15W which reduced performance up to their very latest.

Yeah, I find it hilarious that my stock X230 is faster than my X240

Price?

Also, the i5's were 35W, just correcting you

Price?

bargain: <100 good ~200 meh 300 and up

Is that always a 64 bit computer , correct?