At least, I think, using a web version is better than installing it on my computer.

At least, I think, using a web version is better than installing it on my computer.

Why?

Because I don't want to install MS software on my computer.

I must mention that this was the first time I used Skype... And if from me depends I will not use it anymore.

Well, you can use it from Outlook as well. AFAIK, it works fine.

But I'm no Skype expert. I only used it once and I hope not to do it again.

But I'm no Skype expert. I only used it once and I hope not to do it again.

Me too.

Just to clarify, what do you prefer, to simply use a web version that is less invasive or putting untrusted software on you computer?

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2012/install-skype-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel-scientific-linux-sl/

Installing i686 packages on a x86_64 system in order to use a shitty privative software on your computer?

No thanks...

Skype is owned by Microsoft and 100% proprietary software btw

Good Software Is Good Software

Welcome @DissociativeAnaesthesia

Installing i686 packages on a x86_64 system in order to use a shitty privative software on your computer?

The Alpha Skype has lesser dependencies

(also due it's based on the web)

But still privative software!

The Alpha Skype has lesser dependencies

But I still using the web version just in case of...

But still privative software!

No body denies

Folks please, I'm not promoting Skype, I don't use it, I don't like it, I'm just sharing that I needed to attend to a meeting and found this, from my humble point of view... it is less invasive than installing it. Now that ring is going to be developed by GNU I'm happy that we will have something usable that respect our Freedom. https://ring.cx/en

On the other hand, I don't need to see the face of somebody to held a meeting, mumble has worked fine for me...

there is no alternative for the Skype for calls on the market

hangouts is close, but it has huge downtimes

we use f**king skype every day

I hope that M$ will kill Skype someday :)

It would be nice to have calls in Telegram

Telegram is the only messenger that just works

It would be nice to have calls in Telegram

Yeah, but that requires a lot of money and time, money for coding and servers

even idiots from WhatsApps have calls

Well, nothing is perfect

I tired of all these whatsapps, slacks, hipchats and others

Yeah, but that requires a lot of money and time, money for coding and servers

I hear they've written the code for that already, I'm sure I saw it on their website somewhere

For me Telegram has been pretty good, although there are some things I think should be implemented

Like the ability to disable specific stickers from showing up

:)

Yeah, Telegram rules. But I prefer it without calls

btw, telegram is the best solution for public chats

Wonder why the 5k members limit

btw, telegram is the best solution for public chats

Come on! It is not fully OpenSource...

Come on! It is not fully OpenSource...

Well, Signal doesn't even come close

there is no alternative for the Skype for calls on the market

there's Tox (protocol) with several clients

Since it lacks many things and has issues with metadata

If you are not able to run your own descentralized sever it not worth.

>A New Kind of Instant Messaging

one more

this is why a prefer jabber with OMEMO as a protocol for encryption.

It is so sad these tools are not as popular and mainstream as Telegram or Whatsapp.

Most people are not tech savvy enough and want smth that just works

That's why most use WhatsApp

whatsapp doesn't work

They don't care about encryption, where most don't even know what it means

Most people are not tech savvy enough and want smth that just works

Conversations actually works. it is so easy to use, but... you know people is afraid of learning new things.

@cifose You should send all this to the translation mailing list. Noriko or another admin will help you better.

twas a browser thing?!?! twas weird but solved strangely

domo

Conversations actually works. it is so easy to use, but... you know people is afraid of learning new things.

That's the point, like you and me know it is easy and better, but 99% don't, that's why it should be advertised more, more people stop using WhatsApp, the sooner they can switch

Like, I am still using wapp just to communicate with 4 people

That's why most use WhatsApp

I strongly dislike WhatsApp...

Call me extremist, but this is why I don't use Whatsapp, and when people ask: ramdom_people: "How do you keep in contact with others?" me: "Well I use telegram." I think I should start doing the same promoting Conversations.

however Snowden said Whatsapp is more secure then Telegram by default

Humans are not designed to suit well early with changes, so they want to have the same features after switching from wapp, when they don't find them, they go back

Yes, I do that too. random_human_being: "Do you have WhatsApp?" me: "No, I use Telegram" random_human_being: "What's that? I don't use it. How can I contact you?" me: "Just use your phone"

Humans are not designed to suit well early with changes, so they want to have the same features after switching from wapp, when they don't find them, they go back

depends on the type of change and how young

a kid will adapt faster

however Snowden said Whatsapp is more secure then Telegram by default

Might be, but remember a little flaw, your messages are saved as text and not encrypted in your gdrive if you choose to do the backups regularly

Might be, but remember a little flaw, your messages are saved as text and not encrypted in your gdrive if you choose to do the backups regularly

however we do not know about telegram

the encryption allows the creators to backdoor it

ERROR: S client not available

due to majority of the variables being static

and we do not have server code

Humans are not designed to suit well early with changes, so they want to have the same features after switching from wapp, when they don't find them, they go back

I think this depends on each particular human being. Some suit well and some don't.

I think this depends on each particular human being. Some suit well and some don't.

I was speaking about the majority :)

I was speaking about the majority :)

again that is false kids adapt quickly

and majority like change

that is why they are bored so easily

Well kids of age 10 I guess don't really need to use tg or whatsapp, so it matters more to older people

depends on the type of change and how young

Stallman bless me!

Well kids of age 10 I guess don't really need to use tg or whatsapp, so it matters more to older people

why is it an issue what people use?

It is not an issue at all

it is better not to trust phones in general

You use whatever you like most

It's the same in my case, I don't like GIMP so I use Photoshop, plain and simple

you use windows but yet you claim security of telegram is important to you

you use windows but yet you claim security of telegram is important to you

Where did I claim tg security is important to me?

I just like it more, bc of stickers and other stuff

If whatsapp had the same, I would use that

They don't care about encryption, where most don't even know what it means

here

you implied encryption is one of the things you use for telegram

here

"they", where as they can include me too

I was talking about jabber

jabber is less secure due to the fact it is not an irc system

a server takes all your inputs and sends them out

it all goes down to do you trust the server

If we are going to be paranoid at everything, then better yet, let's stop using the internet

IRC on the other hand is just end to end with just data providers knowing

If we are going to be paranoid at everything, then better yet, let's stop using the internet

i tend not to when i do not need it

turn off my phone

and put it several rooms away when i am home

i have telegram on my computer

which is why i prefer telegram