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Kohane
23.09.2016
16:27:59
Also, it would be more respectful to those who live in countries with bad Internet services or in rural areas.

Correctmaninwrongplace
23.09.2016
16:28:55
Well, why dont you sent to fedora an email with that suggestion?

Igor
23.09.2016
16:29:52
Kohane
23.09.2016
16:31:28
Well, why dont you sent to fedora an email with that suggestion?
Fedora is a huge project. To what part should I email?

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Vitaly
23.09.2016
16:31:45
Correctmaninwrongplace
23.09.2016
16:32:04
Kohane
23.09.2016
16:32:27
Got it ?

@ignatenkobrain Your suggestion makes sense. Maybe an email to developers mailing list too?

Lesik
23.09.2016
16:36:03
Igor
23.09.2016
16:36:15
Lesik
23.09.2016
16:36:38
No it doesn't. rpm -q
for dep in rpmfile.deps: if (rpm -q dep == null): THEN update repo cache else: install without needing an internet connection

Kohane
23.09.2016
16:38:27
Ah, okay

Adam
23.09.2016
17:14:34
After i removed kde i can't login to fedora

Vitaly
23.09.2016
17:17:18
Google
Adam
23.09.2016
17:18:32
How

Vitaly
23.09.2016
17:19:43
How
sudo dnf install $name then sudo systemctl enable $name.service then restart. Replace $name to selected DM. KDE is using SDDM for example.

Adam
23.09.2016
17:21:11
Really I can't understand.. Step by step plz

Vitaly
23.09.2016
17:22:43
Really I can't understand.. Step by step plz
You removed KDE and what do you want to install?

You can install KDE again by: sudo dnf install plasma-workspace sddm and then sudo systemctl enable sddm.service.

Adam
23.09.2016
17:23:24
I want to login to gnome

Vitaly
23.09.2016
17:23:44
I want to login to gnome
Already installed? GDM installed too?

Kohane
23.09.2016
18:49:48
To login to Gnome you don't need to remove KDE or any other desktop you already have. Just install it and pick the desktop you like from menu when the *DM appears.

Vinaj
23.09.2016
19:35:48
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Kohane
23.09.2016
19:39:55
Vinaj Please, write in English, this is an international list, so most of people won't understand if you use your local language. Thanks.

Vinaj
23.09.2016
19:41:21
Oh, sorry for that. next, I'll write in English?

Kohane
23.09.2016
19:41:41
Thank you very much

Sorry to bother with this, it's just that's the way to avoid confusion.

Vinaj
23.09.2016
19:43:11
Okey. @Kohane I got it?

Lesik
23.09.2016
20:02:00
Translation: "Vinaj Mahardika: Open ready, : hard drive Ext/int, RAM all types of pc/ laptops, DSLR cameras, and all kinds of accessories and electronic. System the realtor and trust. Goods I instantly send from Harco mangga dua, central Jakarta. COD/ kirim2an ready. For ordering please specify ; 1. Brand 2 type 3 Spec So as a comparison of the mentioned price once in the can. More Info. WA : 085711086970. #share"

He's selling things.

Kohane
23.09.2016
20:03:14
Here?

Well, he shouldn't

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:16:00
How come GNOME Photos isn't part of the Fedora Workstation install?

GNOME was shilling their new photo manipulation features all over the place, but it's not included in the default Fedora install.

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Eduardo
23.09.2016
23:23:43
I want to buy a ThinkPad to run Fedora, what model do you think is better? Thoughts?

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:25:05
Depends on your needs. Do you need long batter life? How conservative are you about buying a ThinkPad with the "new" ThinkPad design versus the "old" one?

Eduardo
23.09.2016
23:28:01
I need a good display resolution, and a long battery life, I'd prefer a old design

L⁦

I have seen a lot of redhatters with a ThinkPad models but I don't know exactly what models they use

Ardian
23.09.2016
23:32:49
I need a good display resolution, and a long battery life, I'd prefer a old design
If you go with an old design, stay away from TN Displays

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:33:34
The models are categorized in T, W and X (as well as others but those are usually not recommended because they have a worse build quality). The X series (meaning X240, X250...) have a 12" display, the T4*0 series (meaning T440, T450...) a 14" display and the T5*0 series (meaning T540, T550) have a 15" display. The W series are 16" and 17", but they were discontinued in 2016.

Eduardo
23.09.2016
23:34:13
Thanks ardían and L⁦, I'll look for these models

?

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:36:16
Most people you see at conferences probably use an old ThinkPad, that is 4+ years old. These have had a long time to ripe and have great Linux support even with old kernels like in Debian or CentOS. Also, the older ThinkPad have a different design and keyboard, that diehard ThinkPad fans swear on. Those older ones would be X220, X230, T400, T60 and some others. The older ones (T400 and T60) are also the only ThinkPads supported by Libreboot, if you're into that.

Ardian
23.09.2016
23:36:46
Thanks ardían and L⁦, I'll look for these models
Also if you like the red little thing in the keyboard, the T440, T540, X240, have a weird touch, which makes it harder to use. They got back the good old touchpad in their T450 series.

And the series that have an s in the end like T450s (are much lighter).

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:38:15
Also if you like the red little thing in the keyboard, the T440, T540, X240, have a weird touch, which makes it harder to use. They got back the good old touchpad in their T450 series.
Also the mouse (touchpad) is horrible in the *40 series. If you use the mouse a lot, better chose the *50 series or higher. I own an X240 I use the keyboard a lot so I actually disabled my mouse (touchpad) in the BIOS, because it bothered me so much.

Most people you see at conferences probably use an old ThinkPad, that is 4+ years old. These have had a long time to ripe and have great Linux support even with old kernels like in Debian or CentOS. Also, the older ThinkPad have a different design and keyboard, that diehard ThinkPad fans swear on. Those older ones would be X220, X230, T400, T60 and some others. The older ones (T400 and T60) are also the only ThinkPads supported by Libreboot, if you're into that.
These old models are also very cheap, you can get them for a few hundred Euros (in used condition, of course, they're not being produced any more). On the downside, their specs aren't non-plus-ultra (in case you need that for compiling software or something) and their battery life usually sucks (2-3 hours) because the batteries were produced 4-5+ years ago and have since worn out.

Eduardo
23.09.2016
23:40:30
Thanks a lot!

Ardian
23.09.2016
23:40:59
But please use an SSD :P it changes everything.

Lesik
23.09.2016
23:43:55
In contrast, the newer models (newer models meaning "new design", so everything that's *40 and higher) have a great battery life, some articles claim 20 hours but I've never gotten more than 8 hours on lowest settings (but nevertheless impressive). So your checklist should be: - Do I want the "new" ones or the "old" ones? - How many inches should the screen be? - Do I care about Libreboot? - How much money do I want to spend? (Newer models can cost over a thousand Euros.)

I think I should create an infographic with arrows asking questions and pointing to the right model for the chosen answers.

Eduardo
23.09.2016
23:46:52
Was a great help for my buy intentions

Thanks a lot

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Kohane
24.09.2016
04:55:58
How come GNOME Photos isn't part of the Fedora Workstation install?
Isn't it? I thought it was! I have to test that programme. Thanks!

Jiří
24.09.2016
08:58:16
How come GNOME Photos isn't part of the Fedora Workstation install?
Because it's not ready yet. There need to be a couple of features implemented before it becomes the default manipulation program in Fedora, e.g. camera import.

Kohane
24.09.2016
09:07:47
Well, there are many programmes without camera import... I didn't know it was so important.

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Kohane
24.09.2016
09:18:57
Just in case any of you is interested ==> http://thehackernews.com/2016/09/openssl-dos-attack.html

Hello! Anyone knows of a programme like TextMaker but for Fedora? Thanks!

Xiuheng
24.09.2016
15:00:44
Wikipedia says that TextMaker 2016 is available for Linux

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:01:06
Yes, but it's a 30 days free trial from what I see in their page

Xiuheng
24.09.2016
15:04:34
LibreOffice ?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:05:02
it's for LaTex

Terry
24.09.2016
15:06:11
vim or emacs

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:06:36
No, come on, she's just starting with Linux...

Xiuheng
24.09.2016
15:06:37
For LaTeX I usually just use vim...

Or any simple editor

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:06:58
Yes, but she's just starting, those aren't programmes for beginners

Terry
24.09.2016
15:07:30
why is she doing it in LaTex if she is just starting?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:07:44
Because she studies sciences

Terry
24.09.2016
15:07:44
and i found vim very easy to learn

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Kohane
24.09.2016
15:08:01
yeah, but its interface isn't the most attractive

Terry
24.09.2016
15:08:08
and?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:08:19
do you want her back to Windows?

Xiuheng
24.09.2016
15:08:22
I ever tried Gummi, a simple LaTeX editor

Terry
24.09.2016
15:08:24
why does it have to be attractive?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:08:48
Gummi, nice name. Is it in repositories?

Terry
24.09.2016
15:09:11
look up texlive though on the software manager thing

i am sure there is something like an editor

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:09:56
okay, I'll look up then, thanks

Terry
24.09.2016
15:11:11
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=192286

looked on the forums

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:11:44
The thing is she's a science student but she always used Windows. Now she wants to use Linux. So I'm trying to make her transition as smoother as possible. Specially because she has no Windows in her laptop now ?

Terry
24.09.2016
15:12:05
what type of science?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:12:24
Physics if I'm not wrong

Terry
24.09.2016
15:12:30
what year?

Kohane
24.09.2016
15:12:37
I don't know

Terry
24.09.2016
15:12:51
how do you not know?

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