krita/gimp/inkscape is okey too but I'm pretty sure designers need more config and stuff because they're not using intel at all

I'm not gonna say %100 percent "they using nvidia/ati" but mostly that's the case

If you doing "render" you need it. or If you need some cuda config you still gonna need binary too

so we can't avoid it

I've used 25 Alpha in a VM for a few days, didn't even notice it was on Wayland until I went to the system settings. Running smooth.

⁦ ⁦ Probably on Intel machines Wayland works well. I wonder how it is in Nvidia...

Kohane I have nvidia and I can assure It's not*

It's not working, right?

I have also one desktop which is nvidia so It's not working

I have to set to "X server"

Okay, then I'll wait because mine is Nvidia

Now L seems to be just void... ⁦ ⁦

Kohane but you have laptop ?

Kohane you have 2 GPU(s) I presume ?

Yes, Intel Nvidia, but it uses Nvidia straight away

wouw ?

do you have bumblebee or something ?

Two cards Intel & Nvidia

No that I know of...

you didn't install it ?

It worked out of the box

Nope

well... :)

You need some stuff :)

If you wanna get some extra performance and batter-save :)

battery*

Well, it's not the newest laptop in the world, you know... But yeah, it worked out of the box. I didn't know it was Nvidia until I looked into Settings ?

You need some stuff :)

^

Double graphics work like shit if you don't do nothing.

Really bad idea.

Yeahh..... you need to switch off

nvidia

If you just browsing or typing

I didn't know what graphic card it had

lspci |grep VGA

please

But it turned to be Nvidia and I'm happy with it

But it turned to be Nvidia and I'm happy with it

Lucky you

:9

:))9

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1)

Lucky you

Disagree

what ?

she has only one card

That what lspci returns

you don't have intel gpu then

okey*

I still can't load amdgpu drivers probably because they don't seem to support my card

Amd......

has looooonggg why

I still can't load amdgpu drivers probably because they don't seem to support my card

Intel is the best m8

way*

Intel is not the best card :)

sorry

Intel is not the best card :)

Yes it is

It your idea* :)

Yes, looks like the specs of my particular laptop are different from what it's shown in internet... that I researched AFTER buying the laptop LOL

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1)

Is this all the output you get?

Yup

Budhist unknown person...

Intel is the best m8

Considering they are largest contributor to kernel , there can't be another winner

so you said intel is nice because It's working and contribute kernel still doesn't mean It's the best* If you check value(s) and compare with other card. you simply gonna lost because there are better cards which is doing more then "intel gpu does"

simply we can't just say that's best* this just end of user comment.

Well... I don't know what your configuration is but in generally speaking binary is better at the moment for me

Dell m4800 with three Monitors - two served by nvidia, third by intel. Enabling binary = total crash Nouveau = werks

If only the Intel would support three monitors...

Intel is the best m8

Is the best in what sense? The best because of support? The best because of performance? The best because of some other reason...?

ERROR: S client not available

;_; only if amdgpu won't abandon me

Kohane +1 ,

Tobias you need daisy chain support... also as info

I have intel/nvidia and I can manage to use multiple monitor(3) and I can even run nvidia on one of them separately

Tobias you need daisy chain support... also as info

Daisy chain reminds me of computer architecture class

nope It's not :)

e.g : http://www.dell.com/support/article/tr/tr/trbsdt1/SLN295251/EN

so you said intel is nice because It's working and contribute kernel still doesn't mean It's the best* If you check value(s) and compare with other card. you simply gonna lost because there are better cards which is doing more then "intel gpu does"

Intel literally is the only gpu maker that pretty much from the start contributed well working kernel level drivers.

and in that sense it _IS_ the best maker of gpus for linux-powered systems.

Is the best in what sense? The best because of support? The best because of performance? The best because of some other reason...?

You pay your GPU manufacturer. You expect a specific service from him. If your GPU manufacturer takes a big shit all over your OS of choice, I don't think he deserves your money.

I am not buying anything but Intel. Yes, AMD has gotten better nowadays but it's not the same as with Intel. Intel has always worked great. They 01.org center focuses on open source solutions. They are kinda allies.

I am not buying anything but Intel. Yes, AMD has gotten better nowadays but it's not the same as with Intel. Intel has always worked great. They 01.org center focuses on open source solutions. They are kinda allies.

Still using AMD since 2014

You pay your GPU manufacturer. You expect a specific service from him. If your GPU manufacturer takes a big shit all over your OS of choice, I don't think he deserves your money.

Now that's true.

But it happens that my laptop has Nvidia and works out of the box, so I guess my money is well spent.

https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/releases/tag/v0.3.0 cc: @michel_slm

oh, finally! will update

oh, finally! will update

Go ahead, sir.

But it happens that my laptop has Nvidia and works out of the box, so I guess my money is well spent.

Nvidia Binary !== OOTB

@Tobias4X Did I say that I was using Nvidia binaries?

In that case you're lucky

But still, Nvidia is mostly taking a dump on *nix

Maybe I'm wrong but I understood that he was talking about the hardware.

Yes, indeed. I've been fairly lucky

Also my laptop isn't a recent model, so they surely had a lot of time to test and write drivers.

I'm annoyed. Why does dnf need an internet connection to do localinstall? ?

There's no need to update the repo cache. I'm installing a local file.

dnf -C skips the repo update. Very annoying, how is this not default behaviour when dnf realizes it can't connect to the internet?

I'm annoyed. Why does dnf need an internet connection to do localinstall? ?

For dependencies check.

For dependencies check.

No internet connection is needed for that. The dependencies are written in the .rpm file.

dnf could first check whether all dependencies in the .rpm are already met, and if not, then consult the internet.

Instead it falls back to the internet, always.

No internet connection is needed for that. The dependencies are written in the .rpm file.

Dnf is checking for deps to be installed/updated, thats why it needs updated package caches.

In my case, all dependencies were already met. This check is possible without any internet connection.