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gigagloin | Max
16.05.2018
13:25:45
they should probably make it an option though. someone might rely on that in their workflow with some scripts with gui or sth like that

 
Slothy
16.05.2018
13:29:05
When have you last done that?
Yesterday, thanks to appimage xd

 
Whatever, i think they try yo make the store the main software source for security and administration of apps

 
In that point, could be a pro

Google
 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:30:43
they should probably make it an option though. someone might rely on that in their workflow with some scripts with gui or sth like that
Which you can add as executable links to your launcher.

 
gigagloin | Max
16.05.2018
13:30:51


 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:30:52
Or open your terminal

 
Or properly automate it

 
If you click the same scripts eveyday, optimize.

 
Slothy
16.05.2018
13:31:21
But it makes the system... Like a toy....

 
Limited

 
My opinion i mean

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:31:58
Limited
dnf install https://www.tecmint.com/top-best-lightweight-linux-file-managers/

 
If you truly click mindlessly on launchers everday in a file manager, choose one of em.

 
If you want to optimize your workflow - automate/launcher creation.

 
Slothy
16.05.2018
13:32:52
dnf install https://www.tecmint.com/top-best-lightweight-linux-file-managers/
Awesome xd

 
Tom
16.05.2018
13:44:58
So, the latest version of eclipse keeps throwing errors and is making itself unusable. Does anyone have any recommendations for other java IDEs?

Google
 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:45:16
So, the latest version of eclipse keeps throwing errors and is making itself unusable. Does anyone have any recommendations for other java IDEs?
Intellij

 
free and open sauce community edition.

 
Tom
16.05.2018
13:45:40
Does the community one work with maven etc.?

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:45:45
Does the community one work with maven etc.?
Yes.

 
Tom
16.05.2018
13:45:49
Brilliant

 
Once again, thank you @Wolfshappen

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:50:43
Okay, that's great thanks :) I've changed the font in GNOME terminal and the arrows work properly :)
GNOME loves to remove features

 
Does the community one work with maven etc.?
maven, gradle, ant, bazel — whatever, works perfectly.

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:51:36
GNOME loves to remove features
After consideration.

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:51:43
But still

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:52:05
I hate all the "ohnoez it removes things" They told you They invited comments Noone stepped up to comment or maintain it.

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:52:16
It seems that they want to make gnome as minimalistic as it possible.

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:52:20
They only step up for "i totally use that all the time suddenly"

 
It seems that they want to make gnome as minimalistic as it possible.
*remove truly unused or deprecated things.

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:52:46
> I hate all the "ohnoez it removes things" Why, if it's true?)

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:52:59
> I hate all the "ohnoez it removes things" Why, if it's true?)
They told you They invited comments Noone stepped up to comment or maintain it.

 
Because complaining afterwards is easy.

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:53:17
I'm not saying that this it bad, man

 
Anxhelo
16.05.2018
13:53:32
Well, people have complained and commented even before

 
But GNOME devs don't really care that much about user feedback

Google
 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:53:55
But GNOME devs don't really care that much about user feedback
They do.

 
Anxhelo
16.05.2018
13:54:01
Because they follow a vision they had

 
Since the beginning

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:54:15
Give me a thread with >50 users, only 50, that want to keep it.

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
13:54:25
Why do you think that this is complaining? I'm a KDE + i3wm user, I don't give a damn :D They follow the idea of minimalism, that's all

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
13:54:42
Because they follow a vision they had
One thats removing useless things.

 
And application launching from fm...

 
Well. Highly useless. 99% of the time.

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:09:07
Love this...

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:12:14
Did you get idea from the repos?

 
Vitalii
16.05.2018
14:13:07
There is no IDEA in repos yet, only pycharm (and maybe something else).

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:13:47
Ah okay. I can still get the tarball from their site though :)

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:18:24
Ah okay. I can still get the tarball from their site though :)
Yep

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:26:07
god damn, only an hour with zsh and I love the sudo plugin

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:27:00
god damn, only an hour with zsh and I love the sudo plugin
I'm gonna install it too.

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:27:26
if you forget to sudo, just double tap [Esc] and it inserts it for you :)

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:27:33
But quick q, does installing the zsh metapackage make it the default shell?

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:27:52
no, don't think so

 
I don't know what the proper way is

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:28:18
And oh-my-zsh isn't in the repos, right?

Google
 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:28:32
@Wolfshappen, activate please :P

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:28:37
but defintiely not raw editing /etc/passwd

 
Nope, oh-my-zsh is at https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:29:17
Nope, oh-my-zsh is at https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh
Ooh, thankie

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:31:54
@Wolfshappen, activate please :P
Its a git file collection :P

 
But! install zsh syntax highlighting from the repos

 


 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:33:36
Ooh, that's pretty

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:34:32
But! install zsh syntax highlighting from the repos
Package name?

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:35:05
Package name?
zsh-syntax-highlighting

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:35:06
Also, if I wanna try out zsh for a while, while still keeping bash, please tell me all the steps I need to follow...

 
ash
16.05.2018
14:35:17
Try using systemctl list-dependencies firewalld --plain | tr -d ' ' file systemd-analyze blame | grep -F -f file To get a list of firewalld dependencies (that are still active) and their init time
Thanks, got it.

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:35:25
zsh-syntax-highlighting
add source /usr/share/zsh-syntax-highlighting/zsh-syntax-highlighting.zsh at the end of ~/.zshrc

 
ash
16.05.2018
14:36:25
Does anyone know is there a normal non-workaround way to use both systemctl and sys v services? I see that on a server there are lots of old-fasioned init scripts for some services. Systemctl refers to systemd-sysv-generator while launching services using systemctl. I can create old-style init scripts, but I would like to use a systemd for that. Is there a drawbacks (and possibility) to combine both of them? The argument "your plan to combine is stupid" is enouth for me to forget about systemd, but still.
Doesn't systemd make porting sysv scripts easier?

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:42:21
Also, if I wanna try out zsh for a while, while still keeping bash, please tell me all the steps I need to follow...
@Wolfshappen

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:43:16
@Wolfshappen IDEA is really nice, so much comfier than eclipse :D

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:43:26
@Wolfshappen IDEA is really nice, so much comfier than eclipse :D
Told ya

 
@Wolfshappen
dnf install zsh install oh-my-zsh lchsh username /bin/zsh

 
to keep bash type: bash in zsh

Google
 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:44:41
Ooh

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:44:46
Only normies use bash, real men use dash!

 
/runs

 
Sid
16.05.2018
14:44:54
to keep bash type: bash in zsh
Kewl, I'll try it out this week :)

 
Eduard
16.05.2018
14:45:51
Admins use ksh

 
Tobias?
16.05.2018
14:45:57
Only normies use bash, real men use dash!
pft, ash bae

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:46:29
what about a good old embedded sh?

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:46:50
what about a good old embedded sh?
Do distros even ship with it?

 
It's pretty much non existent I guess

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:47:17
sh? every distro ships with /bin/sh

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:47:51
sh? every distro ships with /bin/sh
But AFAIK, it's symlinked with bash

 
Eduard
16.05.2018
14:48:09
@rm_rfasterisk not necesarilly, in ubuntu is linked to dash

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:48:22
@rm_rfasterisk not necesarilly, in ubuntu is linked to dash
Yeah, I was just about to say that :P

 
Debian based distros usually use dash as the default shell but bash still stays as the login shell

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:48:51
Not when you're using whatever is on the cheap chinese webcams, there isn't enough storage

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:48:55
Due to its sheer speed

 
Not when you're using whatever is on the cheap chinese webcams, there isn't enough storage
Umm... What?

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:50:14
GOo to your local store that sells cheap IP webcams, set ip up on a local network, nmap it and then see if you can telnet in. I bet you that, with a bit of searchh engine magic, you can get in

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:51:48
GOo to your local store that sells cheap IP webcams, set ip up on a local network, nmap it and then see if you can telnet in. I bet you that, with a bit of searchh engine magic, you can get in
Oh, I've heard about this thing ( because of The Big Bang Theory ( The TV show )) but never tried it :P

 
Tom
16.05.2018
14:52:37
I spent a summer getting cheap electronics, owning them and writing postts about the process :)

 
Саи Пранеетх Редды
16.05.2018
14:53:21
I spent a summer getting cheap electronics, owning them and writing postts about the process :)
Oh, that sounds interesting. Do you still have those posts up somewhere?

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