I don't use framework

Well, which language? Does it support getting error codes from mysql?

And if not, why the hell would anybody use that xD

Wtf?

Only Firefox is running

Only Firefox is running

"only"

Switch to process view, select "show all" instead of just users processes, then sort by ram usage.

Gnome desktop?

Gnome desktop?

Yeah ,on F27

Memory leak?

Yeah ,on F27

Check gnome-shell's memory usage

Memory leak?

.26 isnt all that affected yet

@Asiri_Iroshan

What shows as top ram user if you select "all" and then sort by ram?

Only Firefox is running

Either you've opened 20 tabs or its a memory leak.

I Love XFCE ?

.26 isnt all that affected yet

Didn't they fix in the next version after gnome 26 that is in Fedora 27?

just 1.30 from 4 gb

Didn't they fix in the next version after gnome 26 that is in Fedora 27?

In .26 it wasnt all that bad, in .28 it blew out of proportion to be shippable - then they fixed it in 3.28.1

Didn't they fix in the next version after gnome 26 that is in Fedora 27?

3.26 was effected. But they said they won't release fix for that.

3.26 was effected. But they said they won't release fix for that.

But far, far less affected.

How, what is the way?

?

You'd have to open the overview alot on .26 - on .28 it was like 400mb per overview.

can I use kernal 4.14 in Fedora 28?

Either you've opened 20 tabs or its a memory leak.

It was only a single tab. And it was using. 164MB of Swap thus causing a lot of lagging, So I restarted it

can I use kernal 4.14 in Fedora 28?

First kernel second, not really and its strongly discouraged to go back this way.

What exactly is your problem with 4.16 that makes you want to go back?

I built an app in python

Why not fix that instead?

but so many people are telling to rewrite it in PHP

15 and 16 didnt work with suspend

Why do people love this terrible language so much?

I don't understand

but so many people are telling to rewrite it in PHP

Why do you listen to others telling you to rewrite it in another language?

15 and 16 didnt work with suspend

Logs?

Submitted errors via abrt?

I wonder if I can run Fedora on 2GB RAM

dmesg persistence enabled, looked at last boot?=

journalctl?

I wonder if I can run Fedora on 2GB RAM

yes with lxde or xfce

I wonder if I can run Fedora on 2GB RAM

Yes

yes with lxde or xfce

Even workstation can.

I wonder if I can run Fedora on 2GB RAM

I686 you can. Dont try 64 bit.

Why do you listen to others telling you to rewrite it in another language?

Because I want to understand the reason behind it

I686 you can. Dont try 64 bit.

64 bit also works in 2gb ram with fedora.

I686 you can. Dont try 64 bit.

I had a pretty bad experience installing it on my friend's pc with just 2gb ram.

Especially if the DE is gnome.

Because I want to understand the reason behind it

Because php is super super nice for rapid prototyping (like python) Faster than python And has super-awesome frameworks that are basically "how php should be from the start" (like laravel)

I hated developing in PHP because wordpress.

Never used laravel

I hated developing in PHP because wordpress.

Wordpress is shit, yes.

But wordpress is a shitty cms by meh developers with layers and layers of legacy.

I was a WP dev for years because that's all clients in my city wanted

now it's all node.js

Wordpress is shit, yes.

This x 100

64 bit also works in 2gb ram with fedora.

On GNOME?

On GNOME?

Fedora in general.

On GNOME?

No

On GNOME?

Yep, because i have a machine that runs 64 bit feodra gnome on 2gb ram.

AN old dell studio 1537

On GNOME?

I did it! (Gnome+LightDM, not GDM, of course)

lil slow, swaps a little with basic browser usage but yeah, it can easily be done.

But wordpress is a shitty cms by meh developers with layers and layers of legacy.

I think that's why most of the clients I worked with loved this shit

Remove packagekit and co to make stuff work smoother

because most businesses and the local government in my city is all run by legacy garbage

ERROR: S client not available

What's wrong with GDM?

Never used laravel

https://laravel.com/ https://laravel.com/docs/5.6

What's wrong with GDM?

GDM looks great but it's very large to download for a just login logout purposes

because most businesses and the local government in my city is all run by legacy garbage

Best of all if they want backends or other software to integrate with wordcrap

I use django alot and like python because it's simple and I give it to clients and it can be edited by people with some brain cells without breaking it.

How is the memory consumption on F28 relatively to F27?

And you have to force wp into submission or make routes to just ignore and go around WP for it

I like laravel now that I am reading it.

I may end up using it

GDM looks great but it's very large to download for a just login logout purposes

Yeah, couple of megabytes. What difference does it make?

How is the memory consumption on F28 relatively to F27?

Lessened, alot.

Lessened, alot.

(GC runs way more often)

I may end up using it

Laravel is for full scale webpages and comes with vuejs ootb - for smaller apis use golang or lumen instead.

eh

https://lumen.laravel.com/

Laravel is for full scale webpages and comes with vuejs ootb - for smaller apis use golang or lumen instead.

Eh

Yeah, couple of megabytes. What difference does it make?

Couple of megabytes? It was approx a 100mb. Just gdm! Now GNOME DE.

And you have to force wp into submission or make routes to just ignore and go around WP for it

I just hate any CMS in general. I use a CSS framework + own code or a static site generator.

May hold off on this then for now

I just hate any CMS in general. I use a CSS framework + own code or a static site generator.

Yes, CMS. But there is a huge difference between framework and cms.

Lumen is actually exactly what I need

A cms has everything pre-made for you.

a framework is supposed to take all the hard, repeating stuff from you and pre-do it for you.

Yes, CMS. But there is a huge difference between framework and cms.

What he said

a framework is supposed to take all the hard, repeating stuff from you and pre-do it for you.

I would tip you money for this quote

Couple of megabytes? It was approx a 100mb. Just gdm! Now GNOME DE.

Thats like three minutes of downloading.

Because php is super super nice for rapid prototyping (like python) Faster than python And has super-awesome frameworks that are basically "how php should be from the start" (like laravel)

But the error handling of PHP is the worst, you can have many big errors and it simply writes them in the log

Thats like three minutes of downloading.

Not if you have a shitty internet

But the error handling of PHP is the worst, you can have many big errors and it simply writes them in the log

By default, yes.

Meet laravel/whoops.