Of course, but the fact remains that some if not most of the best open source games rely on either real time shooting-based stuff (xonotic, sauerbraten ect), realtime strategy (0ad, warzone2100) or things like Endless Sky which is a rpg in which you shoot with lasers at other ships.

Sorry, I just realized I missed this whole conversation, so, at the risk of conversation necromancy, I'll comment. I... wasn't impressed with the quote they chose to use in that video. IIRC, I was answering a completely different question about what we install on our systems, not what I love about Fedora.

And, to clarify 'non-violent' games, our school has a ban on FPS where people are involved. 0ad, warzone2100 and bzflag *are* installed on our systems.

https://youtu.be/JNE7cvVinZk

Hello I have still problems with VOB ? files in F28 ... please only Open Source Solution if you want to support Thanks

Jay, the apparently last 7.x rhel 7.5 was released!

So it looks like its slowly going towards a 4.x kernel with rhel8?

I'd like to try some DE on fedora. dnf install [de name]-desktop-environment should be enough

is there something should I pay attention to?

F27 workstation

I'd like to try some DE on fedora. dnf install [de name]-desktop-environment should be enough

Install the group, not just the DE

Install @blablabla

Forgot the @

Install the group, not just the DE

If you install the group it’s going to pull from a lot of stuff you may not want or need. If it’s for trying, install the desktop only. If you need anything else, install it as well.

I'd like to try some DE on fedora. dnf install [de name]-desktop-environment should be enough

Yes, that’s enough.

I used to use kde since kde 2 version and now I am loving gnome 3.26

which de gives the best fedora experience?

cli isn't an accepted answer :P

KDE these days is a little bit messy

and there are glitches in desktop effects with very common Intel and Nvidia graphic cards

it's not on pair with KDE 4 functionality yet

which de gives the best fedora experience?

GNOME is the officially supported DE... That said, most of the DEs work well.. (Typing this from Budgie installed from @alunux's copr)

and (one of the worst things in my use case) Kontact doesn't work well with webdav

and there are glitches in desktop effects with very common Intel and Nvidia graphic cards

I have an intel HD520

and (one of the worst things in my use case) Kontact doesn't work well with webdav

I had some difficulties to get it working on kubuntu too

and (one of the worst things in my use case) Kontact doesn't work well with webdav

I can never switch away from evolution and gnome - the integration is just awesome and no other single mail client supports as much as evolution.

which de gives the best fedora experience?

The official de gets tested first so i'd stay on that.

evolution is great! ugly but great

Everyhing else is just a community spin.

I can never switch away from evolution and gnome - the integration is just awesome and no other single mail client supports as much as evolution.

Kontact used to be better integrated in KDE 4 than Evolution is now in GNOME 3

evolution is great! ugly but great

Use it with arc-dark and it becomes a sleek mail tool.

things have changed dramatically

Unless you love mac then geary is for you.

Use it with arc-dark and it becomes a sleek mail tool.

I used arc-dark in kde too

I used arc-dark in kde too

But arc-dark-gtk as well? kde and setting a gtk theme was always horrible.

I had some difficulties to get it working on kubuntu too

Concerning webdav, is an open bug which has stayed unresolved for yeards

I helped arc dark project with eclipse theming

I can't sync my accounts

Concerning webdav, is an open bug which has stayed unresolved for yeards

Whereas evo works perfectly

But arc-dark-gtk as well? kde and setting a gtk theme was always horrible.

I had nice results after some work on it

Unless you love mac then geary is for you.

+1

And how is evo still ugly then? Its miles ahead of kmail in interface design

Unless you love mac then geary is for you.

I do but my laptop is already an hackintosh

:)

my own laptop triple boot: win10 kubuntu macos

work laptop dual boot: win10 fedora

I do but my laptop is already an hackintosh

Nice.

I am planning to switch from kubuntu to fedora on the personal one

Nice.

yep, it was hard but now it works flawlessly

I am planning to switch from kubuntu to fedora on the personal one

Even better! :P

I had to modify the bios

not the settings :D I decompiled, modified, rebuilt and flashed it to remove the awful lenovo whitelist on wifi cards

Whereas evo works perfectly

Yessssss

cause the original card chipset wasn't supported in macos

not the settings :D I decompiled, modified, rebuilt and flashed it to remove the awful lenovo whitelist on wifi cards

i flashed coreboot on mine

and added an intel 72..60 i think

best 5ghz card available for my x230

intel cards aren't supported in macos

that's why I had to replace mine

intel cards aren't supported in macos

Well, we all knew macos was crap but holy sweet damn, really?

Stealing from bsd and omitting the intel drivers from it?

it's not crap

it's closed but it works great

perfect for work (I am a developer, java at most)

it provides a powerful cli (as any unix does) and a cool gui

it's not crap

Whenever i work with it the shortcomings make me rage and its slowness and inability to get basic things right angers me.

ERROR: S client not available

and... it runs msoffice

I never come back from working on a mac without being angry at having to do so.

I am quite happy to work on it (my hackintosh)

When I was playing with a Mac a while back, it disgusted me they made me sign up for an account to get hold of their developer tools (which are abysmal, no surprises)

it has a nice setup: i5, 16Gb ram and ssd

I am quite happy to work on it (my hackintosh)

Why, if you have non-apple hardware, do you _choose_ to run macOS?

When I was playing with a Mac a while back, it disgusted me they made me sign up for an account to get hold of their developer tools (which are abysmal, no surprises)

I don't nedd their dev tools

Why, if you have non-apple hardware, do you _choose_ to run macOS?

cause I can do it

same reason because I installed linux on my ps3, ipod and such

and because I like macos

cause I can do it

I can also jump off the roof of my house, but I don't because I still have some semblance of sanity left, however slim

I am quite happy to work on it (my hackintosh)

shitty nfs perfomance, shitty terminal, crappy archival tools, crappy performance, crappy devtools, crappy safari devtools, tiny errors only on their browser popping up always..

And finder still fails to mount nfs/smb properly super often.

Their tooling persuades the development of webapps on desktop, which is abhorrent

performance are good, who needs finder when you can use mc?

performance are good, who needs finder when you can use mc?

Pft, far from it.

Who needs mc when you can use find . -name <file name>

Hear its fans scream when compiling ios apps/sending files over nfs.

I am not a fan :P

I have a Macbook Air from 2010 running latest OS X.

I'd stick on slackware if it was faser to configure at my wishes

Since I basically need it to be my typewriter and a remotecontrol utili, I don’t mind it running there.

Since it has all the same command line utils, because *nix.

I used to use kde since kde 2 version and now I am loving gnome 3.26

if you want to use KDE

install plasma-workspaces

not the entire group

because Fedora KDE Group is very bloated

because Fedora KDE Group is very bloated

*need contributions*

cli isn't an accepted answer :P

i3wm xD

I guess I'll stay on gnome arc-dark

That looks so beautiful ?