Why isn't pantheon usable on other distros? Someone must have done enough work to port it

Hard to port iirc

it is

The fedora one has been dead since ages.

The fedora one has been dead since ages.

no

wrong

decathorpe is actively developing it

i saw updates last month itself

no

Link?

and he has a nightly repo

think I'll just stick with KDE

until something else comes up, that is

Link?

https://decathorpe.com/ https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/decathorpe/elementary-stable/ https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/decathorpe/elementary-nightly/

until something else comes up, that is

I really liked the material design DE

Up until the dev rage quit

the who whatnow

I really liked the material design DE

i liked the hawaii desktop UX

Oh. I was looking at this. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PantheonDesktop?rd=Features/pantheon

up until there was no fedora port anymore

Oh. I was looking at this. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PantheonDesktop?rd=Features/pantheon

yeah the official thing looks like its dead

but iirc decathorpe is trying to get his port to the repos

im just going to keep saying decathorpe so people remember him lol

i liked the hawaii desktop UX

Oooooooooo papyros merged with Hawaii

DECATHOROPE. Maybe fedora community people can actually help him. @jflory

Oooooooooo papyros merged with Hawaii

yeah and they stop releasing for fedora

Pantheon is intended to work in elementary OS elementaryOS is based on Ubuntu LTS which since some time contains outdated packages, and that's a problem I think. They depend on that packages, but new ones have different APIs or something incompatible with older versions

Pantheon is intended to work in elementary OS elementaryOS is based on Ubuntu LTS which since some time contains outdated packages, and that's a problem I think. They depend on that packages, but new ones have different APIs or something incompatible with older versions

true but very little doesnt work in his port

yeah and they stop releasing for fedora

Well good to see it's not abandoned anymore tho

Developers really don't bother yourself about other distributions users

Well good to see it's not abandoned anymore tho

it was never abandoned

Developers really don't bother yourself about other distributions users

Except for GNOME and KDE

the fedora one was abandoned

And XFCE

Those 3 work anywhere

I'm talking specifically about Pantheon devs

I'm talking specifically about Pantheon devs

thats true

I'm talking specifically about Pantheon devs

Yeah those guys don't give a damn outside elementary. It even doesn't work properly on upstream Ubuntu ?

I'm talking specifically about Pantheon devs

that being said

pantheon devs themselves write their own app ecosystem

everything is written in GTK3 and vala

I'm talking specifically about Pantheon devs

Its Daniel Fore, right? I asked him about this afew years back and he didn't give a clear answer

in fact they ported to GTK3 before a lot of other distros

Its Daniel Fore, right? I asked him about this afew years back and he didn't give a clear answer

The clear answer is screw off

The clear answer is screw off

more like they have other things they are focused on

they are literally a small dev team doing nearly everything from scratch

What I want right now is the Budgie QT version to succeed. The developer keeps pushing back the date, and I think the project isn't doable by one person. They would really need a lot of manpower for that.

I don't really understand the need to reinvent the wheel by Linux communities

What I want right now is the Budgie QT version to succeed. The developer keeps pushing back the date, and I think the project isn't doable by one person. They would really need a lot of manpower for that.

theres a good porter for budgie too

I don't really understand the need to reinvent the wheel by Linux communities

because honestly, a lot of DEs can be messes from a code and standards perspective

theres a good porter for budgie too

Budgie QT.

like gnome

But that's just me I think it's better to gang up on a problem

Budgie QT.

Budgie 11 will be WT by default

But that's just me I think it's better to gang up on a problem

yeah but different groups have different priorities

yeah but different groups have different priorities

But some of them clearly have overlapping goals

i mean hawaii and papyros clearly had a common goal and teamed up

Im waiting for budgie Qt too, but I can't find any git repo or information about current progress

Budgie and Cinnamon have the same goals

But some of them clearly have overlapping goals

i dont think for instance, you could convince the solus devs to adopt the elementary design standards or vice versa

Budgie and Cinnamon have the same goals

i dont think so

Feels like they haven't started yet

Budgie and Cinnamon have the same goals

Budgie intends to be very simple out of the box

There's also zero reason for all the many many WMs in the same vein as i3 that are slightly different

cinnamon intends to be very powerful

There's also zero reason for all the many many WMs in the same vein as i3 that are slightly different

these are written in different languages with different extensibility models

Xmonad is haskell, and i doubt you could convince the devs to use a procedural language

I also heard that budgie is intended to work with GNOME (gtk) programs

awesome uses lua, i believe

Awesome wants lua scripts to customize along with the floating mode

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I'm glad Ubuntu dropped Unity there was zero reason for it too

which is why I don't use awesomewm

I'm glad Ubuntu dropped Unity there was zero reason for it too

there was a lot of good reason for unity

there was a lot of good reason for unity

Burned lots of cash and devs to make another GNOME

good touch support, it had a good ux design, good ux features like the HUD

Awesome wants lua scripts to customize along with the floating mode

Does floating mode entail floating away from it?

Burned lots of cash and devs to make another GNOME

unity came before gnome 3 was released

and the unity devs disagreed with the initial direction of gnome 3

which made sense

Does floating mode entail floating away from it?

floating mode is openbox mode essentially

Burned lots of cash and devs to make another GNOME

you cant look at everything in a vacuum, you need to consider the timeline too

Mark Shuttleworth wanted Convergence

no way gnome would have done that for them

and the gnome devs werent taking their suggestions either

tbh unity should have become a nice upstream project across distros

and it would have been successful imo

DECATHOROPE. Maybe fedora community people can actually help him. @jflory

@IceWreck Sorry, what is the context here? I haven't followed conversation today

@IceWreck Sorry, what is the context here? I haven't followed conversation today

he has elementary/pantheon coprs

very good ones

he has elementary/pantheon coprs

Oh! Yeah, he actually has an interview coming out on the Community Blog later this month. He talked a lot about that work.

Oh! Yeah, he actually has an interview coming out on the Community Blog later this month. He talked a lot about that work.

hes awesome

Oh! Yeah, he actually has an interview coming out on the Community Blog later this month. He talked a lot about that work.

also is there any way you can ask about Hawaii in fedora groups

it currently cannot be installed (so it should be removed?)

since it will no longer be maintained

(on f28)

hes awesome

His interview publishes the morning of April 17. You should drop him a comment on his interview and tell him. ?

also is there any way you can ask about Hawaii in fedora groups

Hawaii?

Hawaii?

Hawaii desktop

its in groups list

If it's a package problem, maybe better to ask in @fedorapackager? If it is packaged proper

it last properly worked in 26 i think

not in 27 or 28