Did they fix vulnerabilities?

Intel

Open source OS with technical support?

RHEL

https://www.redhat.com/en

what's the benefit to do open source projects in companies?

what's the benefit to do open source projects in companies?

You can show off your publci work and team skills at later companies you may want to work at, You face increased self-scrutiny and you'll mature your projects quicker + insight from community members.

And you'll not support closed source crap.

RHEL

Can I use it for personal reason?

Can I use it for personal reason?

Yes, but you'll have to register.

Or use centos instead.

Ok, thanks for reply

It comes from the same sources but has Redhat replaced with centos.

And you wont get actual support without paying.

You can show off your publci work and team skills at later companies you may want to work at, You face increased self-scrutiny and you'll mature your projects quicker + insight from community members.

But what benefit company get from open source?

But what benefit company get from open source?

Control. You can change something or fix bugs by yourself

But what benefit company get from open source?

Commmunity: Chiming in Feature Requests Free testing and bug reports Free Development Time from external pull requests Saved dev and testing time for the company Company: Everything must be top-notch and secured and well done - any error is visible to anyone. Increased trust in your product. Customers having an easier time using you knowing if you go bankrupt your software will continue - making it easier to choose your product thus less likely that you go bankrupt.

There are hundreds to thousands more awesome things you get from having the community help you this way - and giving back of course.

And you don't have to pay them! lol

Pay to community

And you don't have to pay them! lol

Relying only on external devs for a company isnt going to work.

External devs might add a new feature your customers like in a beta way.

You can then take it and do it properly.

Relying only on external devs for a company isnt going to work.

Even small help of community can save some money

Isn't it

Even small help of community can save some money

You likely spend more back for community social persons and project leaders that look over and maintain community-given code.

This is not about the possible 1% of dev costs you can shave off.

This is about building trust to your users, being the project thats favoured when in comparison to "hat the heck happens with my private data" competitors and co.

Look at web servers, apache, nginx and lighttpd rule. Closed source crap is almost never chosen, even the microshit-supported IIS.

I agree for the most part.. But nevertheless companies still choose closed source products (like IIS) to run their systems

I agree for the most part.. But nevertheless companies still choose closed source products (like IIS) to run their systems

They are few and far between.

The largest customers of IIS are actually state based projects because of rampant microsoft corruption of officials microshit has to run everywhere.

And you don't have to pay them! lol

Actually no. A company can't afford to throw questions to a number of forums or mailing lists hoping for someone somewhere at some moment will send the correct reply. Companies lose money just by waiting. They need things done. They will pay and quite well, to skilled people who's available for support, fixing bugs, control security, etc.

Open source products is more like exception in my country at least

Yes, but thats why companies like rhel started forming.

They provide 24/7 on-premise support packages for your software.

And trust me, closed source shit doesnt even remotely have as good support as you can get for open source products.

Open source products is more like exception in my country at least

I know. But not here.

Actually no. A company can't afford to throw questions to a number of forums or mailing lists hoping for someone somewhere at some moment will send the correct reply. Companies lose money just by waiting. They need things done. They will pay and quite well, to skilled people who's available for support, fixing bugs, control security, etc.

They have own specialists to solve problems

Postgres vs mssql - companies with hour or its on us contracts exist for it and if you are a smaller company the head developers frequently are able. to quickly respond to real inquiries.

They have own specialists to solve problems

Not all the companies have.

Not all the companies have.

And those that dont pay redhat or similar.

And those that dont pay redhat or similar.

Exactly!

The windows support you can get is equivalent to a guy going to your company bored, editing some registry values and its magically fixed - rhel engineers do a much better job at this. From the start because afaik they'll tell you about redundancy, redundancy, redundancy.

The windows support you can get is equivalent to a guy going to your company bored, editing some registry values and its magically fixed - rhel engineers do a much better job at this. From the start because afaik they'll tell you about redundancy, redundancy, redundancy.

I know of many small companies in B-W working for bigger companies delivering support, software solutions, security, etc. And they use open source. Of course, there are others using Windows, but I mean it's not a strange thing to see.

Okay... Unfortunately you can't just switch to another os or solution for your business for obvious reasons... So closed source crap is still a thing

Okay... Unfortunately you can't just switch to another os or solution for your business for obvious reasons... So closed source crap is still a thing

Most businesses can.

The few that cant emply either really shitty made custom software or have deliberately locked themselves in.

Or fear for better systems management to take their precious admin rights so they cant play games at work anymore.

If it doesn't care about uptime

If it doesn't care about uptime

You can do seamless migrations with A/B testing and instant halt if anything breaks.

That's so... ?

If you decide to switch its not like your server stops working at that second (atleast until cortana can detect such)

You can have both environments coexist until you're certain linux is (naturally) doing a better job at it while also being faster and working to a 100%.

this is good idea if company has money and resources to keep both envs at the same time

this is good idea if company has money and resources to keep both envs at the same time

If your company cant pay for two more servers (if only one is already running) it should propably not be a part of the internet.

If your company cant pay for two more servers (if only one is already running) it should propably not be a part of the internet.

lol maybe

imo the most productive way to get work done at a company is to let devs choose their own tools

(given reasonable constraints)

i know someone who is stuck on a windows 7 machine but doing development on a windows xp vm because thats all the superiors will let him do

and another stuck on ubuntu 14.04 because the company doesnt want to switch

everybody suffers

i know someone who is stuck on a windows 7 machine but doing development on a windows xp vm because thats all the superiors will let him do

What??

I thing sometimes it's not good idea to give freedom of dev tool choice. There're should be some sort of standart on that part in the company

someone knows how to do a bootable pendrive

on fedora

ERROR: S client not available

????

<Sheogorath[m]> erMonacoo Fedora Media Writer?

<Sheogorath[m]> dd? depends on what you want to boot

Last time I tried the media writer on a Mac machine, it didn’t work at all

I suggest just downloading the iso and using dd

someone knows how to do a bootable pendrive

Use etcher (great except for the fact that the UI is electron based) or fedora media writer.

someone knows how to do a bootable pendrive

fedora media writer

but I think you should make gpt table on the drive if you have UEFI

before

but I think you should make gpt table on the drive if you have UEFI

btw this feature would be really usefull in Fedora Media Writer

like in Rufus

but I think you should make gpt table on the drive if you have UEFI

but fedora media write do this

but fedora media write do this

it's not true for me... everytime I have to check (and change) partition table ?

;-

Are there any advanced settings?

its a windows FUCKING 4.5GB IMAGE ISO

gez

4.5 GIGABYTES

like ubuntu :>

almost

Gosh dont know why

https://github.com/mesalock-linux/mesalink/tree/master/crypto-bench

will there a day that windows iso its going to be 16.5gb

and ubuntu

50.5gb

will there a day that windows iso its going to be 16.5gb

16TB*

XD

16ZB

"ZeraByte"

yeah But windows has everything builtin so we probably should expect that

gosh

its a lot