its about the resources you have

Not sure, didn't they open-source it a while ago?

Idk I used it a couple years ago. It was not convenient for me..

There was a Meduim post a while ago about why electron is the cancer of free software

if it runs well enough on your computer and makes you more productive, its idle ram usage doesnt matter

Vim uses 10 MB of RAM, Atom uses 1 GB of RAM on the same file.

Vim uses 10 MB of RAM, Atom uses 1 GB of RAM on the same file.

your point

I made a text editor! *chromium web page is opening*

if an editor like atom with its extensive extensions makes me 5x more productive, while performing well enough, then numbers do not matter

I can't remember the last time I thought a graphical product was actively better than a text-based one for my workflow

if an editor like atom with its extensive extensions makes me 5x more productive, while performing well enough, then numbers do not matter

Call it memory well-spent?

atom extensions are great despite the chromium engine

Call it memory well-spent?

sure

i mean, i use jupyter notebooks a lot

i view them entirely in the browser

i wouldnt trade them in, they do well enough

I like vscode and all that it does for me. I dont have a lot of extensions for it other than linters and a theme or two. It's not a memory hog and it's fast.

And

i dont need them to be faster

it took less time to configure than vim which took me a painfully long amount of time to get something I was comfortable with

the fact of the matter is @xvitaly the entire web is a pile of shit

In fact, my new work machine doesn't have a GUI at all.

but our computers are fast enough to run this pile of shit comfortably

so we dont need to give a shit about using piles of shit if they help us get our shit done less shitty

the fact of the matter is @xvitaly the entire web is a pile of shit

Webapps on desktop.

In fact, my new work machine doesn't have a GUI at all.

This would be the only reason I would use vim

I use vim for editing, mutt for mail, tmux as the equivalent of a WM and lynx for browsing. That's all I really need

i use VS Code, Evolution, Gnome and Chromium

I use vim for editing, mutt for mail, tmux as the equivalent of a WM and lynx for browsing. That's all I really need

edgy

I use vscode, gnome, thunderbird and firefox

i use VS Code, Evolution, Gnome and Chromium

3 of these are shitty memory hogs

in the sense that they are JS heavy

VS Code, Gnome and Chromium

Gnome uses js?

a lot

its extension framework

oh ok makes sense

For my workflow, there is no need for graphical applications, especially when graphics don't add any value

oh ok makes sense

also gnome 3 draws the desktop one the same thread it uses for extensions and the JS engine

I use vscode, gnome, thunderbird and firefox

++

thats one of the cited reasons for laggy animations and slow UX

along with the JS engine memory leaks

a lot of this is planned to change in the Gnome 4 roadmap

a complete rearchitecture of mutter

so if you found gnome 3 slow like me, this is all why

and disabling extensions and turning off animations should help

a lot of this is planned to change in the Gnome 4 roadmap

starting with 3.26 apparently

starting with 3.26 apparently

the mutter rearchitecture?

source?

Oh no sorry I meant with the memory leaks

oh

well gnome 3 has had plenty of memory leak bugzillas that have been fixed iirc

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Are gdm themes still a thing?

I haven't used them a long time now

And what about grub themes

Is there a nice fedora one?

Is there a nice fedora one?

Stsrfield is the kinda best supported one or however it was named

But i'd rather not fiddle with something that can completely lock me out of my pc if loading its files goes wrong

Anyone here using KDE with Kaby Lake integrated graphics

?

or skylake?

If you just state the error someone else might be able to help you.

This way you artificially prolong the time before someone can chime in, prolonging your wait - or maybe non-skylake users also have an idea

ERROR: S client not available

But i'd rather not fiddle with something that can completely lock me out of my pc if loading its files goes wrong

I simply wanted it to look different from what it looks like now.

But i'd rather not fiddle with something that can completely lock me out of my pc if loading its files goes wrong

I always have a bootable USB live

<Sheogorath[m]> jwf: He's dead, jim

<Sheogorath[m]> jwf: He's dead, jim

Sheogorath: Wait, what?

Sheogorath: Wait, what?

Oh yeah, mentioning sheo in irc is aways a chore on keyboard. ?

<Sheogorath[m]> @jflory a teledora left didn't notice that it's teledora4 that is currently handling the conversations ^^

<wolfshappen> Oh right, but znc buffextras have saved the join and part for both Sheogorath[m] - so i can see that it is now a different name :P

<wolfshappen> Maybe it had network problems?

<wolfshappen> Also why keep the "[m]"? More Stuff to type when someone wants to mention you on here trough telegram.

<Sheogorath[m]> Because I have a ZNC account using my nick without the [m] ;)

<Sheogorath[m]> and no worries, you can leave the [m] away and I still get highlighted

Ah, purrfect

<Sheogorath[m]> Apart from that, yes, didn't scroll up and so I didn't see the join ^^

<Sheogorath[m]> @jflory a teledora left didn't notice that it's teledora4 that is currently handling the conversations ^^

Sheogorath: Yeah, the bot will randomly disconnect and append a number to the end. I never figured out why.

But usually there isn't a coverage drop

/

How does someone get around "your HDD be dying" to install Fedora anyway?

Sheogorath: Yeah, the bot will randomly disconnect and append a number to the end. I never figured out why.

Damn, for a moment I thought you were talking about real people....

How does someone get around "your HDD be dying" to install Fedora anyway?

Using a different HDD. That's how I get around.

Dying hard disks have no fix, and they don't get better, they get worse.

Very quickly and randomly.

Are you fans of Skyrim or it's just someone's nickname?

Sheogorath

Very quickly and randomly.

RIP

Yeah, I was seeing it coming. I had this issue several times before.

Hello @Andre4s ! Welcome to the group, please read the rules in the pinned message.

<Sheogorath[m]> @iam_nick: Well, it's a combination of being a fan of the story behind Sheogorath, various similarities between his and my character and the simple point that the Name has something nice with it :)

<Sheogorath[m]> I really recommend to read the lore behind Sheogorath as Skyrim is not more than a tip of the real story

Every time I played Skyrim I was too lazy to read anything about this guy :c Now I basically have no time at all...

Open source OS with technical support?