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Henrique
05.04.2018
13:27:30
alright

Giovanni
05.04.2018
13:27:34
"When you see this, do that"
I did that when I was in high school to learn computer science by myself (my school didn't teach computers). That was so frustrating to learn each new problem because I was learning by examples, not by abstract concepts. At the university, fortunately, I learnt to approach computer science from the opposite side (i.e. from abstract concepts and theory to practice) and thankfully now I could take and solve problems that I have never seen before. Obviously there should be an equal amount of theory and practice, because I know people that are so focused on theory that can't touch a system shell. That's so infuriating!

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:27:36
i got a error trying to upgrade to fedora 28 by terminal
Fedora 28 is beta, wait before updating!

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:27:49
but i want to test it

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Henrique
05.04.2018
13:27:51
.-.

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:29:02
-.-'

Sid
05.04.2018
13:29:08
but i want to test it
+1!!! On a live/ installed usb tho...

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:32:28


i got this

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
13:34:43


Giovanni
05.04.2018
13:35:45
Wonderful. Well yeah, it shows I should swap to CS.
?? I give you another tip: choose wisely between computer science and computer engineering. They are deeply different

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:35:47
English, Please.
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'fedora-spotify', disabling. Last metadata expiration date verification: 0:09:26 atrás em qui 05 abr 2018 10:24:10 -03. Error: Problem 1: package mariadb-libs-3:10.2.14-1.fc27.x86_64 requires mariadb-common(x86-64) = 3:10.2.14-1.fc27, but none of the providers can be installed - mariadb-common-3:10.2.14-1.fc27.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package mariadb-libs-3:10.2.14-1.fc27.x86_64 Problem 2: package blender-1:2.79-6.fc28.x86_64 requires libboost_atomic.so.1.64.0()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - problem with installed package blender-1:2.79-1.fc27.x86_64 - boost-atomic-1.64.0-5.fc27.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - blender-1:2.79-1.fc27.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository Problem 3: problem with installed package openvdb-libs-4.0.2-1.fc27.x86_64 - package openvdb-libs-4.0.2-1.fc28.x86_64 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.64.0()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - openvdb-libs-4.0.2-1.fc27.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - boost-iostreams-1.64.0-5.fc27.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository

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Jon Christian
05.04.2018
13:37:25
Not related to solving your problem, just in general.

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:38:13
I'd suggest using Fedora's english version.
Yeah for the first time , is the best I can do HAHAH

LOL I just dnf delete mariadb-common on terminal

And retry the command to upgrade

And works

LOL

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:40:31
You cant.

Nvidias is going against the choice everyone else made and their display architecture isnt supported in wayland

unless you use awful/ugly hacks.

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:41:23
What’s is wayland??

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:41:31
Stay on x11 until nvidia gets their heads out of the wall some day so never.

Justin
05.04.2018
13:41:40
Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:41:41
What’s is wayland??
A successor protocol to x11

I thought Nvidia supported Wayland now since a few releases ago?
Only with EGLstreams i think, which is not proposed for wayland afaik.

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:42:00
Hmmm

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:42:19
At most its all with nouveau.

Jiří
05.04.2018
13:43:06
I thought Nvidia supported Wayland now since a few releases ago?
It has, but they haven't agreed with upstream on how it should work. So there are two proposed solutions. Fedora is planning to support both for the time being.

Justin
05.04.2018
13:43:21
Only with EGLstreams i think, which is not proposed for wayland afaik.
Oh. I thought it was proper support. But I haven't been bold enough to try Wayland on my Nvidia desktop

Jon Christian
05.04.2018
13:43:29
What’s is wayland??
The stuff currently involved to display stuff on your monitor, when using a Linux Distro, is very "old". The stuff used also has plenty of obsolete features.

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Jon Christian
05.04.2018
13:44:01
Wayland is the effort to make a new <whatever word better than ecosystem> to replace X11

Henrique
05.04.2018
13:45:15
Hmmm

Tom
05.04.2018
13:45:49
As long as stuff works on intel graphics, I'm happy

Jon Christian
05.04.2018
13:46:08
Haha, same.

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
13:50:30
Nvidias is going against the choice everyone else made and their display architecture isnt supported in wayland
Read the message dude. The nvidia is not actually used for video out. Video out is handled by Intel HD Graphics 4000, NOT the nvidia card.

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:51:01
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05.04.2018
13:51:13
unless you use awful/ugly hacks.
well then tell me the ugly hack because I know that the gpu that is supposed to output video does in fact output video

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:51:15
Sticking an nvidia in is enough to disable wayland.

Denis
05.04.2018
13:51:23
Doesn't GNOME's wayland compositor support NVIDIA proprietary drivers?

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
13:51:57
"Pull out the nvidia" :P
"Make you calculations take forever" is a solution that creates more problems than it solves

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:53:34
"Make you calculations take forever" is a solution that creates more problems than it solves
And thats why i'd put my horse on team red and ROCm with opencl :P

But yeah, just take the x11 output until nvidia has either their way or it settles on using what everyone else does.

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
13:54:20
also, passing through an nvida gpu to a vm and using wayland on my desktop is not possible? what kind of bullshit is this?

Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:54:32
Binding the card to vfio on boot will not load nouveau or nvidia, which is the thing that stops wayland usage.

>cuda
Guess why i hate cuda with passion.

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Tobias?
05.04.2018
13:56:12
Binding the card to vfio on boot will not load nouveau or nvidia, which is the thing that stops wayland usage.
(not that youd want to do such with a windows guest with increasingly fiddly driver kvm detection that then disables and in the future uninstalls itself)

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/03/nvidia_server_gpus/

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:02:44
so... "offload the calculations into the basement" it is then

(I really can't deal with unsmooth animations, they annoy the crap out of me... so I am basically allergic to x11)

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:04:12
so... "offload the calculations into the basement" it is then
Doesnt the software you use have an option to use a render swarm?

Blender can be made to use opencl/cuda/cpu rendering over tons of pcs for example.

So slap that nvidia into a server you dont mind dying of heat/shitty nvidia drivers and go at it.

Daniel Andrei
05.04.2018
14:07:09
slap that all on the floor.... ?

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05.04.2018
14:09:52
Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Barrel
05.04.2018
14:10:19
:P

And constantly at 100% load

Henrique
05.04.2018
14:10:40
why nvdia doesnt contribute with fedora?

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:11:08
Doesnt the software you use have an option to use a render swarm?
i don't think a rendering swarm is gonna help with calculations that are not video rendering....

Henrique
05.04.2018
14:11:19
building a architecture for linux i mean

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:11:33
? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:11:49
why nvdia doesnt contribute with fedora?
because nvidia wants to have their drivers proprietary and fedora hates proprietary

Henrique
05.04.2018
14:11:52
HAHAHAHAHA

jesus hahahahah

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Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:12:07
They stopped giving the free time reverse engineering masters over at nouveau that painstakingly make your cards work any documentation how to make them work.

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:12:18
he since took it back because "it got better"

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:12:22
Nvidia is the single worst company when you're a small consumer. They dont give two damns about you.

he since took it back because "it got better"
They started releasing documentation again, oh wow.

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05.04.2018
14:12:43
Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:12:43
Still no reclock blobs for newer cards for nouveau.

no company gives even a single damn about small consumers
Open source amd linux driver open source amd, soon upstreamed opencl kernel driver.

Barrel
05.04.2018
14:13:19
Intel drivers tho :D

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:13:20
Out of the box full gpu acceleration, reclocking, video acceleration and opencl.

Intel drivers tho :D
Intel does the same, yes.

But intel is a full chapter on its own.

Henrique
05.04.2018
14:14:05
and AMD ?

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:14:13
In a server with limited airflow?
I'm a normal human being and my server is in a normal mid-tower ATX case because why the fuck not

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:14:24
and AMD ?
see the "full open source everything important, linux first"

Barrel
05.04.2018
14:14:27
Only one of them is in a case like that

Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:14:43
And their explicit offerings for computational clusters makes them an awesome choice now too.

Barrel
05.04.2018
14:15:02
Note, not actually ATX, some weird dell proprietary format

? ? ? ? ?
05.04.2018
14:15:27
Tobias?
05.04.2018
14:15:47
but no cuda, which is a dealbreaker for most.
most neural network frameworks got opencl support now.

tensorflow for example.

Video rendering acceleration/blender/rendering in general works as well on opencl as it does on cuda.

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