eh vim is actually pretty powerful

I didn't say it's not powerful. I said it's ugly, I strongly dislike it and I don't want something that puts me off. I want a code editor that is KISS and fancy and I don't notice is there, it doesn't get on my way, it's pretty.

I didn't say it's not powerful. I said it's ugly, I strongly dislike it and I don't want something that puts me off. I want a code editor that is KISS and fancy and I don't notice is there, it doesn't get on my way, it's pretty.

eh was arguing with them, pay no attention to it

yep this, but saying if you can't use vim then you're not ready to code is a bit extreme

He was poking me. It wasn't for real.

eh was arguing with them, pay no attention to it

Oh, okay

I don't use dotnet

Neither do I.

Hope you are aware of the two different terms, 'Free Software' and 'Open Source'

Yes, and so? Why is it bad installing third party if said software is FOSS? I don't get it.

we point out FOSS editors we use

Sublime is not FOSS as far as I can remember.

Sublime is not FOSS as far as I can remember.

I don't use subl

I don't use subl

I used it, like 5 minutes. It's not very different from a standard text editor and it requires you to pay, so no.

When I did fresh install for other reasons it got wiped and never installed it again

I used it, like 5 minutes. It's not very different from a standard text editor and it requires you to pay, so no.

You know what subl does great though

Wait, what is even considered third-party?

What is not in repos I suppose.

You know what subl does great though

What?

- performance - key bindings - utility - and it has OK extensions

That's why it's so popular

And there are clones like Lime

Because its an editor worth cloning apparently

well aslo javascript and typescript and things like pug

Pug? Can I code a dog with this?

Pug? Can I code a dog with this?

Pug is what jade is called now

If you don't know what that is its a HTML templating language

So you write your views in pug and your server compiles it to HTML and serves it

They went from a sacred stone to a funny dog. Okay.

I question why languages aren't named after dogs more often

So you write your views in pug and your server compiles it to HTML and serves it

Oh, thanks for the explanation

I don't need rain loops, I can hear the natural ones. ?

Way too seldom for my taste

Vim: I hate it.

Its the code persons editor :P

https://youtu.be/p9cGNkzkWqk

So you write your views in pug and your server compiles it to HTML and serves it

*Or your Js/ts framework

Looks terrible

Also: NO

vim is the editor ?

https://youtu.be/p9cGNkzkWqk

Oh no

https://youtu.be/p9cGNkzkWqk

I like the new Process Manager

Today I booted fedora and i get 3.4 GB of RAM after 30 minutes

Today I booted fedora and i get 3.4 GB of RAM after 30 minutes

I know i know, overview allocates ram and never releases it

I know how to use vim but I think I understand what's the issue and that's why I mainly use sublime nowadays, I am always scared that something will distract me, I will go back to my computer, start writing again and OH NO I am in Normal mode and my whole file is now bonkers

I understand there's undo and whatnot, but still

I understand there's undo and whatnot, but still

there's also git ?

I like changing files remotely in vim vim scp://user@myserver[:port]//path/to/file.txt

there's also git ?

I know, but that's not the issue, I don't like the constant awareness that I need to check the mode I'm in etc.

stresses me out :D

I know, but that's not the issue, I don't like the constant awareness that I need to check the mode I'm in etc.

ehhh, that's how vim works

I know, but that's not the issue, I don't like the constant awareness that I need to check the mode I'm in etc.

Thats why you use vim-clutch!

https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch

I like changing files remotely in vim vim scp://user@myserver[:port]//path/to/file.txt

can i really do it in that way?

https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch

*insert eurobeat music*

can i really do it in that way?

yes of course ?

OMFG

im sorry..

it has so much power!

can i really do it in that way?

Theres nothing that vim CANT do :P

Vscode here, sup! >:D

I didn't think vim can do network things...

I didn't think vim can do network things...

What do you consider "network" things?

You can collaborate on work in real time, if you consider that networking :P

like open, save files over network

Yeah, you can do that

sorry, couldn't help it

anyone tried NixOS ? https://nixos.org/ was curious about the installation process and performance

On Fedora Discord, there's a woman called Alice who used to package stuff for NixOS. You could ask her.

On Fedora Discord, there's a woman called Alice who used to package stuff for NixOS. You could ask her.

talk to women irl? omg

talk to women irl? omg

Is Discord real life?

voice chat

Still not real life.

I could be talking to dogs here for all i know

How did you find out...?

ERROR: S client not available

I must be a good guesser

it might be kind of illness...

On Fedora Discord, there's a woman called Alice who used to package stuff for NixOS. You could ask her.

Interesting ?

welcome! ?

Replaced my third seagate hdd this month They just keep failing.

Weird

Don't buy that junk.

Are they barracudas?

Don't buy that junk.

Its cheap, its raid5, its glustered.

One of mine also failed. Got a WD after that.

One of mine also failed. Got a WD after that.

I'd use HGSTs pro drives but for the cheap customers its cheap platters ?

Redundant but cheap

Redundant but cheap

Then it's no wonder that they are failing out. They are infamous.

You'll pay more in the long run replacing faulty Seagates... than buying something that will last.

You'll pay more in the long run replacing faulty Seagates... than buying something that will last.

Eh, as long as the customer keeps paying the yearly failed drives i dont mind.

You'll pay more in the long run replacing faulty Seagates... than buying something that will last.

They replace it for free.

I'd mind for the premium guys but nah

They replace it for free.

Do they also pay the money used to send it back to them?

Even then, no one brings back the lifetime spent dealing with it.

Do they also pay the money used to send it back to them?

No. Even if you buy it online, you go to their authorized store, and they replace it.

The data loss is not worth it though. Even if you have backups.

No. Even if you buy it online, you go to their authorized store, and they replace it.

Amazon sends them for free and gives me some days to replace them

Way too seldom for my taste

Okay, that's true.

Amazon sends them for free and gives me some days to replace them

Yeah, that's also an option.

Amazon is one of the places where I buy stuff but...

The transport is not good.

Basically, I don't know of any company that has actually reliable workers in the transport role.

Amazon is one of the places where I buy stuff but...

Yeah, it depends on place to place. Its really good in my country.