If I have not read the last 6k, I will probably not read the next 6k

lol good one

Goddamn it ;__;

Laws of Physics determine what you can do

did anyone take teh OSCP or COMPTIA+ exams?

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/linux/its-2018-and-you-can-still-p0wn-your-linux-box-by-plugging-in-a-usb-stick/

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/linux/its-2018-and-you-can-still-p0wn-your-linux-box-by-plugging-in-a-usb-stick/

only condition is that the victim must run a KDE desktop hahahaha

only condition is that the victim must run a KDE desktop hahahaha

Yeah, I do (dual boot)... I kinda like most DEs except unity, tbh.

Yeah, I do (dual boot)... I kinda like most DEs except unity, tbh.

Unity is the worst of them

dual boot? Win + Lin?

Unity is (or was?) nice

I like gnome more, but it was nice

Yeah, I do (dual boot)... I kinda like most DEs except unity, tbh.

?

I thought you liked Unity

dual boot? Win + Lin?

Heck no. Fedora and mageia (new laptop). I'm still deciding for my older machine...

Oh ok

I thought you liked Unity

If it were still alive, and available on all/ most distros, I'd use it. I (am gonna) use some combo of most/ all DEs and WMs, I can find in some permutations or combinations across my two devices #DEjunkie

I like gnome more, but it was nice

Me too, can't live without the GNOME workflow/ UX/ extensions :)

GNOME Is just horrible to me :P

I honestly can't pick which DE Is worse for me, Plasma or GNOME

Unity was nice, I liked it - it worked well, was rock solid and had many keyboard shortcuts

I love KDE, but I find GNOME more solid these days

Hence I use it

Honestly, for me the honly way to use KDE Is using another wm for it

Unity was nice, I liked it - it worked well, was rock solid and had many keyboard shortcuts

It was unportable on Fedora, apparently.

Honestly, for me the honly way to use KDE Is using another wm for it

What DE do you use, then?

What DE do you use, then?

bspwm, if I'm forced to use an actual DE I'll use CInnamon because it's the lightest and when they're all sort of bad then that's the best thing

bspwm, if I'm forced to use an actual DE I'll use CInnamon because it's the lightest and when they're all sort of bad then that's the best thing

Have you tried our lord and savior, xfce? ?

bspwm, if I'm forced to use an actual DE I'll use CInnamon because it's the lightest and when they're all sort of bad then that's the best thing

Well, you go wm full time, it takes a lot to make you go back...

Have you tried our lord and savior, xfce? ?

HAIL!!!

It was unportable on Fedora, apparently.

I think someone actually got it to work, but yeah, it was quite bad how it was tied to Ubuntu

Have you tried our lord and savior, xfce? ?

It was actually the first DE I ever used, and thus I don't really have a fair opinion of it, I haqven't put it through the "1 Month test" that I did with GNOME and KDE

I think someone actually got it to work, but yeah, it was quite bad how it was tied to Ubuntu

I saw an old mailing list saying the ubuntu devs didn't take any measure to help port it.

Good way to be less productive and nearly get kicked out of college Try to use GNOME

Good way to be less productive and nearly get kicked out of college Try to use GNOME

I'm in college, I use GNOME... :P

Using terminals to manage things in DEs for me is so unintuitive

Since I have to use my mouse so much

It was actually the first DE I ever used, and thus I don't really have a fair opinion of it, I haqven't put it through the "1 Month test" that I did with GNOME and KDE

xfce is an environment which is pretty much the stablest of them all IMHO, I don't think much features were added in the last 5 years, yet it is still heavily maintained and nowadays slowly being ported to GTK3 (with emphasis on slowly, but making sure everything works rock solid and no features go missing)

so, for me this is an ideal environment for work where I don't care about being shiny, but I care about working 100% of the time

I saw an old mailing list saying the ubuntu devs didn't take any measure to help port it.

sounds reasonable, after all it was an ubuntu product for ubuntu, targeting ubuntu

so, for me this is an ideal environment for work where I don't care about being shiny, but I care about working 100% of the time

Yeah, that's what I like because like wm's you can make XFCE Look stunning but it's more about being efficient

I finally made WiFi work on my installation ;__; I've been struggling since the past two days trying to fix it and was almost on the verge of giving up when it hit me. I bloody forgot to turn the wireless device on and all I had to do was press the wireless switch on my keyboard. Fml

I finally made WiFi work on my installation ;__; I've been struggling since the past two days trying to fix it and was almost on the verge of giving up when it hit me. I bloody forgot to turn the wireless device on and all I had to do was press the wireless switch on my keyboard. Fml

Oof, I know that feeling

sounds reasonable, after all it was an ubuntu product for ubuntu, targeting ubuntu

But this is Linux, isn't it? If all devs felt that way, Ubuntu (or any other distro) won't have any components to use...

I did the same with the WiFi switch on my T430, never made that mistake again

There was even an article on this week's distrowatch newsletter about that...

I did the same with the WiFi switch on my T430, never made that mistake again

Same. Will never forget this shit lol

Yeah, that's what I like because like wm's you can make XFCE Look stunning but it's more about being efficient

Very hearty +1 on this! Mate-tweak, (still not on Fedora) is another similar alternative.

I finally made WiFi work on my installation ;__; I've been struggling since the past two days trying to fix it and was almost on the verge of giving up when it hit me. I bloody forgot to turn the wireless device on and all I had to do was press the wireless switch on my keyboard. Fml

???

But this is Linux, isn't it? If all devs felt that way, Ubuntu (or any other distro) won't have any components to use...

sure, but as a developer I see that creating generic, interoperable and universal software is way, way harder, so many times you need to choose, whether you want to narrow the scope and do the stuff faster, or broaden it and have many more problems along the way

so, for me this is an ideal environment for work where I don't care about being shiny, but I care about working 100% of the time

I agree with this, but at the same time I run gentoo :^)

sure, but as a developer I see that creating generic, interoperable and universal software is way, way harder, so many times you need to choose, whether you want to narrow the scope and do the stuff faster, or broaden it and have many more problems along the way

They could do it with future releases, nobody wants cross platform compatibility on day one ;)

They could do it with future releases, nobody wants cross platform compatibility on day one ;)

sure, but they won't have such possibility now when it is cancelled... ?

I wonder how many people actually use a tool similar to this mkcd() {mkdir -p $1;cd $1;}

sure, but they won't have such possibility now when it is cancelled... ?

Yeah. Ubports has forked and is continuing to maintain unity 8 tho :) (Which I may try)

Anyone knows how to enable horizontal scrolling with middle mouse click on the scroll wheel? Cannot find it in Settings > Mouse & Touchpad

I think someone actually got it to work, but yeah, it was quite bad how it was tied to Ubuntu

Same reason why I think Canonical gave up on it and switched to GNOME. #UpstreamWorks

Same reason why I think Canonical gave up on it and switched to GNOME. #UpstreamWorks

It works now, but when Unity started it wasn't taken for granted that Gnome3 will not be a failure ;)

I wonder how many people actually use a tool similar to this mkcd() {mkdir -p $1;cd $1;}

Zsh has the exact same command but it's call take. So basic, but super useful

Zsh has the exact same command but it's call take. So basic, but super useful

Oh, I never even knew that, I have that in my zshrc lmao

http://news.softpedia.com/news/you-can-now-run-android-8-1-on-your-pc-with-apps-from-google-play-store-519765.shtml

Oh, I never even knew that, I have that in my zshrc lmao

Wait, my bad. It's a thing from oh-my-zsh, not zsh

Wait, my bad. It's a thing from oh-my-zsh, not zsh

Ah, good thing I have oh-my-zsh installed :P

Wait, my bad. It's a thing from oh-my-zsh, not zsh

I thought they were the same thing

I thought they were the same thing

No, its just that a majority of zsh users usually also has oh my zsh or similar enabled

ERROR: S client not available

No, its just that a majority of zsh users usually also has oh my zsh or similar enabled

well that's the configuration directory name

I thought they were the same thing

No, zsh alone looks god forsaken tbh

Oh-my-zsh actually is sort of a plugin for zsh

It works now, but when Unity started it wasn't taken for granted that Gnome3 will not be a failure ;)

Fair too. But Canonical seems to have made it closely tied to Ubuntu. Since it was only Canonical working on it, I'm not surprised Unity went the way it did.

In 2017/2018, it's very, very hard to justify working on a Linux desktop environment and being paid to do it

http://news.softpedia.com/news/you-can-now-run-android-8-1-on-your-pc-with-apps-from-google-play-store-519765.shtml

Aren't Arne Exton's Android builds paid?

In 2017/2018, it's very, very hard to justify working on a Linux desktop environment and being paid to do it

But gnome/kde devs get paid just fine.

Some more than others but

Fair too. But Canonical seems to have made it closely tied to Ubuntu. Since it was only Canonical working on it, I'm not surprised Unity went the way it did.

Exactly.

Aren't Arne Exton's Android builds paid?

I don't think so

No, zsh alone looks god forsaken tbh

and it's vulnerable as hell

(mandatory fish shell shilling from me for anyone who uses a shell as an application runner and lack of bash compatibility is not an issue)

Aren't Arne Exton's Android builds paid?

aww it costs money! buy it for only $9 USD *throws in the bin*

(mandatory fish shell shilling from me for anyone who uses a shell as an application runner and lack of bash compatibility is not an issue)

I really liked the fact that you could do ($something) rather than $(something) which makes a hell lot of sense to me

But I found the welcome to fish annoying is hell and did not know how to remove it lol

I really liked the fact that you could do ($something) rather than $(something) which makes a hell lot of sense to me

I like the highlighting, autocompletion, and general friendliness of fish; I've tried zsh with oh-my-zsh for some time but it's just not the same

aww it costs money! buy it for only $9 USD *throws in the bin*

I'm just poor :(

I like the highlighting, autocompletion, and general friendliness of fish; I've tried zsh with oh-my-zsh for some time but it's just not the same

^ I totally agree. Do you know how to remove the welcome to fish banner? Its very annoying. If you could tell me how to, I will give fish another go

^ I totally agree. Do you know how to remove the welcome to fish banner? Its very annoying. If you could tell me how to, I will give fish another go

https://fishshell.com/docs/current/index.html#greeting - "If a function named fish_greeting exists, it will be run when entering interactive mode. Otherwise, if an environment variable named fish_greeting exists, it will be printed."

https://fishshell.com/docs/current/index.html#greeting - "If a function named fish_greeting exists, it will be run when entering interactive mode. Otherwise, if an environment variable named fish_greeting exists, it will be printed."

Oh, thank you..

https://www.slideshare.net/nathenharvey/effective-testing-with-ansible-and-inspec

awww, Subscription for infrastructure Fedora mailing lists is disabled

is it normal behaviour or anomaly?

New Red Hat podcast today: https://tracking.feedpress.it/link/18442/8257010/beffda00.mp3

when will KDE 5.12 updates be released?

when will KDE 5.12 updates be released?

Probably with F28.

hey

is fedora 28 out yet

is fedora 28 out yet

June

8.5.2018 (planned) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule

?

Tyvm